At 9.50pm AEDT yesterday, there was a sudden spike in trading on the oil and S&P 500 futures market.
6.50am New York time is an unusual time for a rush on trades on West Texas Intermediate May futures.
But it showed that all of a sudden, a substantial sum of money was bet on oil prices dropping and the stock market rising.
And may every
daytrade be another wonderful secret.Lol.
Such a weak nation.
Never in my wildest dreams did I think Americans would get walked all over like this.
Right now I’m not seeing any other future for us than permanent subjugation.
It’s almost like we enjoy the punishment.
It’s a big club, and you ain’t in it.
Do workers still think we shouldn’t take the wealth of our rulers by force?
Looking at the broad majority Yes.
My elderly father thinks “workers don’t know how to run businesses”, which is funny to me considering how many bone-headed decisions I’ve seen management make. Plus pointlessly cruel ones, alongside selfish and short-sighted ones.
The stock market is such a goddamn pyramid scheme. The only reason it hasn’t full on collapsed is because the people running the scam get bailed by US tax payers every time it breaks. Nevermind that they tricked us into tying our retirements into the continuous survival of this casino in a trench coat.
Happy little accidents …
In any other country on earth, Trump would have been dragged into the street a lynched by now.
I think the best American’s can hope for is that his own security detail order 66’s him.
I honestly never thought Americans were this weak.
We’re being abused and asking our abuser for more. It’s pathetic.
You act like fascists don’t exist outside USA
Do you mean 86?
Referencing the clones in Star Wars when order 66 is activated and they kill the Jedi.
Exactly. A hidden command gets sent out by the Secret service and suddenly the security details of Vance, Trump, Kegsbreath, Bondi, etc… all do what needs to be done.
Only in the movies.
For sure. I’m well aware that real life doesn’t work that way. Because real life kinda sucks right now.
Yes, we fucking know.
Most corrupt administration ever
Most corrupt administration ever
so far
so far
Yup. Pandora’s Box is open now. Going forward every conservative grifter is going to acknowledge what Trump got away with and attempt to get away with as much and more. Why wouldn’t they? They’ll want their turn at the grift so they can create their own dynasty using America’s wealth.
We’re cooked. Our system is weak.
It can be fixed… not gonna be easy
And it’s not even fucking close. The gall of it.
The most blatantly corrupt. They literally do not care if their corruption is on full display to the world.
I think they actually revel in it. Like, “look what we can get away with and you’re not going to do shit about it”
They seem like exactly the kind of evil that has to push the bounds of human depravity just to prove to themselves how privileged and powerful they truly are.
Like with those Epstein files we aren’t talking about as much since we’re waiting to see if this is WW3 – you have a variety of powerful people who are probably not pedophiles in the mental illness sense, but they fuck teenagers because it’s a combination of forbidden fruit and domination/control and half a dozen other things that stimulate their dark triad brains.
Because they know the American people won’t stop them.
i think they are just stupid. previous administrations were pretty bad too, but they kept it quiet, but i think they knew and told each other what they were really doing. these morons either didn’t understand or cannot follow the instructions
Sorry but you’re the dumb one for misunderstanding them. They’re bad at lots of stuff, sloppy and lazy in many ways, etc. Not stupid.
The incredible number of gigantic income streams they DIRECTLY manipulate - traditional stocks and options sure, what about their scam coins (bribery funnels)? What about Kalshi and Polymarket where the crime family is on the board of both, directly influencing world events and the related bets?
The various other ways Trump has said “world leaders if you simply give money to this thing here…”?
But sure, they’re just stupid I guess. So stupid they and all their friends are just getting richer and richer with every fucking awful thing they do, cuz they get to telegraph it and profit from the foreknowledge every goddamn time, whether it’s good news or bad news for everyone else, it’s all just profit for them.
Please stop calling these people stupid.
to be clear, i meant it that these people are dumb and evil, previous ones were shrewd and evil
it’s just more obvious that they are evil, because they are stupidWell, I hear you, but I really couldn’t disagree more. They correctly assessed they can do it all openly, they were right, and now it’s much easier. They were ahead of the curve, they are actively profiting in extreme, ridiculous ways from their correct assessment and follow-through - you’re the one behind here, clinging to the old rules that clearly barely apply today. Not trying to antagonize or be a jerk, hope it’s not coming across deliberately jerky, I just really think it’s a dangerously incorrect misunderstanding you have.
There is nothing whatsoever stupid or accidental about the exact stuff you’re describing from them. It just doesn’t work toward ends that you easily recognize, and thus looks stupid to you, but again, only because your world model is badly out of date now. Incidentally, everyone like you that is failing to update quickly is making it all work even better. This is what I mean. What you’re saying is not just wrong, it’s dangerously wrong.
iran seem smart they seen trump say the same lies with ukrane then russia would attack ukrane hard. like who side is trump on.
“Traders”… oh that’s strange, they misspelled traitors
Those two words sound the same in many American accents, right?
Very similar, yes
Did you say “bets”? Wait nevermind, if you know the outcome it’s not a bet.
It’s really remarkable how blatantly corrupt a government can be. Well, not really, because it’s just the logical consequence of the fact that even the most serious crimes go unpunished in the U.S.
What’s almost funny is that so many U.S. citizens still insist they live in a country governed by the rule of law. I have no idea how they can still believe that, given what happens there every single day.
But then it’s not funny anymore, because the consequences for the whole world are so dire.
Only the most serious crimes go unpunished. The little people get abused, killed, or just disappeared for doing things like protecting each other.
We now live in a country of Contract Law. If you manage to get someone to sign a contract and fuck them over then you are golden within the US court system. If you want justice or a fair settlement against a corporation … that is like a legal unicorn when it happens.
I have been saying for months the laws are dead. The social contract has been incinerated. Our nation is dead, irrecoverable.
Never say never. In 1986, it was utterly unthinkable that the dictator of my country (Romania) would ever be overthrown. 3 years later, he fails a mad scramble to get out of the country and ends up being executed.
Might not be visible now, might not be for years, but there’s always possibility.
Well yes we’re gonna need an entirely new constitution, and because the US is so geographically spread out will probably end up with a few nation states. The US as a nation is dead, we don’t knw yet what new nations will arise from the ashes.
If that were to happen, the laws that govern this nation would need rewritten entirely. The regulations that govern business need rewritten. The foundations of our social contract must be renegotiated.
I don’t want to live in a nation populated by Nazis or their supporters. If there is no punishment for them, the nation remains dead permanently. Nazi Germany did not go far enough in punishing the perpetrators. Japan did not go far enough in punishing the perpetrators.
I don’t think it is safe for society to allow them to simply duck their heads and be folded back in. These are dangerous, selfish, hateful people who will do everything in their power to undermine society and to teach their children to do so after them for decades after this.
Everything happening now is directly trackable to the civil war and the sabotaged/failed reconstruction that allowed hatred, racism and resentment to fester. It was never dealt with in government, in fact, the government often encouraged it.
I do not want to repeat history. I want a society of people who want to be a part of that society. Not forced into it by exploitation and coercion. I don’t want society to be more akin to a back alley mugging where most of us are unable to leave, despite desperately wanting to.
I fully agree with your goals (last paragraph). Literally all I was disagreeing with was the finality of it, that your country is permanently wrecked. It is currently wrecked, but nothing is fully permanent, and with enough time (talking a decade at an absolute minimum, more likely multiple decades) and people commiting real effort, this is fixable.
We have different meanings of the word country, is all
The United States is dead. The people where it once stood could make a good society again, it will just not be anything like the one before.
Rump is quite old and has health problems, he can’t have many years left. Meanwhile this has all the appearance of a personality cult, with no obvious successors: we can’t afford hope it all falls apart and we can begin to recover
The problem is he unified all the scammers and abusers. Even if he dies all these losers are still together and will continue to be a scourge.
American culture created Trump.
When he’s gone, the rot will remain until your Nazis are sufficiently afraid or sufficiently dead.
I can’t deny that but I can hope that they’ll no longer have a golden idol to rally around or an authority telling them it’s ok.
We need to at least get back to the point where these behaviors are not socially acceptable, are not encouraged by elected officials, and ARE legally accountable
I have no idea how they can still believe that, given what happens there every single day.
They don’t know. The sort of info they get either leaves out such things or twists them in a way that makes MAGA look good.
And if something still gets through it can be dismissed as “probably fake, created by haters”.
But all this is - well, I’d be too optimistic if I said “crumbling”, but it’s becoming so transparent here and there that even (some of) those propaganda-fed thought-resistant fools can see it.
Outright unashamed corruption.
Don’t even need to be corrupt. The US administration is so incompetent that you don’t even need it. Trump uses twitter instead of official channels to make announcements. If you own twitter, you can just put a delay on trump’s tweets and let you read em before everyone else.
Not that this isn’t corruption, just that they are incompetent in addition to corrupt.
And it has gotta be pretty obvious which trades are likely insider trading. So SEC could likely trivially prosecute them - and I assume it is blatantly illegal.
But I assume that Trump has also corrupted the SEC.
You are correct. Under the latest Trump administration the SEC has been focused on deregulation.
The Biden administration had already been allowing p2p crypto under the Howey test. So literally everything Trump has deregulated is scams and insider trading.
Every single one of those trades is, by law, tied to a name, US address, and Tax ID Number, and tracked on a massive system called CAT/CAIS.
The SEC absolutely has that info.
The most they will do is a slap on the wrist, such that it’s really only a cost of doing business
Trump was invited on a news program many years ago to be the pro corruption side of a debate. And did not disappoint. He doesn’t hide who he is I suppose.
Yeah but these days they’re just doing full mask-off extra-corrupt just-pay-me-bitch corruption.
Like paying $1bn to the “board of peace” of which Trump is the supreme chairperson eternal ?
In the interview he was arguing that it shouldn’t be illegal. And that we were missing an opportunity… so now that he controls the DOJ, he is just acting like it isn’t illegal, because effectively it isn’t.
I bet that group is working hard around the clock on the Iran problem …
Right ?
… right ?
Yeah, I mean it’s in the name. When things aren’t peaceful this dynamic team of diplomatic masterminds goes to work.
It’s one thing for someone inside to profit off their insider knowledge.
It’s a whole 'nother level of evil to make announcements and decisions based on the profits you can make.I would say it’s an extremely blurred line, not a clear difference.
From the perspective of citizens entrusting elected leaders with massive powers they should be considered identical.
They are using war, killing and injuring countless innocent people, just to steer their investments. It’s Market Manipulation at it’s most global, most evil level, with billions of dollars being manufactured out of thin air when a bet was won. The money wasn’t earned. It didn’t come from selling a product. It was phantom money created out of thin air when a bet was won.
It’s almost as if all the lives, and limbs, and property of all the people who have been bombed have been transmutated by MAGA alchemists into profits.
it’s almost as if global markets should see the US markets as rogue and cut off their value. treating all US stocks as void.
would solve the problem overnight.
That would create a much larger problem.
When we get a Democratic government back, and they sue trump for all the insider trading and stock market manipulation he has done, they need to take all the money he gained as the fine. Plus jail time.
Fuck that give him the chair for serial child rape
Zero chance of happening. I’d love to be proven wrong, though.
I’m so tired of not being wrong.
Yeah sometimes I wish I never learned about history and political science
I’ll take all the Trump family and ass-kissers with jail time and loss of the money they looted
I just checked and civil statute of limitations is five years. Criminal six. There’s hope at least, even if I’m similarly cynical.
I really hope there are people left keeping track of these things, is the only thing. By noon there will be something else awful, by design, that makes us all forget about this.
Yeah. If you follow the rules. If trump didn’t follow the rules, why would the next administration need to?
Of course they won’t because they are democrats. But if the opposition had a spine at all they could just ignore the rules too
