This is some of the goofiest shit I have ever heard. If these biblical Nephilim giants ever existed, and someone had evidence of that existence, what would be the motivation for hiding it?
Scientists do not avoid biblical references because of some vast conspiracy. They leave that stuff out because those stories do not agree with their findings and/or do not add any useful information.
A great many scientists are Christian, Jewish, or Muslim. If the Nephilim ever existed and evidence was found that proved it, scientists would not shut up about it. It would be impossible to keep it quiet.
Can you imagine the museum traffic if such evidence existed? People would travel from all over the world to see even a tiny fragment. No curator in his or her right mind would pass up that opportunity!
Their entire “live for today and do nothing for tomorrow” attitude in the conservative christian Right is based on the idea that none of this is permanent, that the bible is factual and literal, and that Jeebus is coming back aaaannny day now and he will make everything white I mean right.
No need to worry about the environment, economy or education system if nothing is real and everyone is going to be raptured to some magic place that lets you … bask in God’s glory? I have no idea what they actually think is going to happen in heaven, dead grandma is going to serve them cookies every day and they are going to be fine with it literally for INFINITY amount of time.
The entire narrative is so flimsy that it takes the concept of some huge conspiracy to keep it alive and remotely believable. This is the entire basis of the flat-earth movement as well.
Our species is lacking more than education and critical thought, we have large sections of the population lacking thought broadly, like no internal system of abstraction, language and comparison to find truth or objective reality. They just react to stimuli and go through life on auto-pilot and emotion. This is why these “movements” persist for hundreds or thousands of years despite all evidence to them being utter bullshit.
Because religious people also know that reason and rationality and evidence is the way to go, so they’re trying to assert that science is actually dogmatic and refusing reality while the Bible is factually correct and not the dogmatic garbage which it actually is.
Most scientists who study it literally agree that Jesus Christ was a real person who lived around the time and had a following. They just disagree on the divinity aspect. But they are totally fine with saying “yeah, this dude probably existed and preached”. Science has NO PROBLEM with religion, it just doesn’t blindly believe it. Noah’s flood is another example of “these stories were likely based on some actual events that occured”.
If giants were real, just like pygmies are real, we’d happily discuss them.
Just to point out that Noah’s Ark is lifted from a Sumerian(?) story that is linked to the epic of Gilgamesh. Also Meltwater pulse 1B probably left some cultural memories that got merged with it at some point.
Yeah that’s also what I’m referring to, a good amount of the story beats were taken from the Sumerian Flood Myth. Meltwater Pulse 1B was a major flooding event that raised the sea level quite a bit within about 80 years and is probably the basis of a lot of flood myths.
Or even just the floodplains of the Nile flooding. A persons concept of “The World” was much smaller back then. If everything you know is flooded, that might as well be the whole world from your perspective.
Oh most certainly, it’s a matter of perspective of the times. Most of my ancestry lived and died on two gods forsaken islands off the coast of Europe, I live on the otherside of an ocean and a continent they didn’t know about in a climate they only knew from myth. We can argue over what the origins were for millenia as people before us have and still come to no conclusion because those who wove said myths are gone with the only trace being said myths.
Depends what happens between now and then and what survives. We have pretty accurate documents from Rome and thusly a sober interpretation or at least as much as you can get. Meanwhile the viking age is as much legends as it is history, the difference between myth and legend is blurry but generally when spirits and gods get involved in a direct sense it’s myth with a few exceptions. King Arthur and Beowulf are myth, De Bruce and Davey Crocket are in the early stages of legend.
This is some of the goofiest shit I have ever heard. If these biblical Nephilim giants ever existed, and someone had evidence of that existence, what would be the motivation for hiding it?
Scientists do not avoid biblical references because of some vast conspiracy. They leave that stuff out because those stories do not agree with their findings and/or do not add any useful information.
A great many scientists are Christian, Jewish, or Muslim. If the Nephilim ever existed and evidence was found that proved it, scientists would not shut up about it. It would be impossible to keep it quiet.
Can you imagine the museum traffic if such evidence existed? People would travel from all over the world to see even a tiny fragment. No curator in his or her right mind would pass up that opportunity!
Their entire “live for today and do nothing for tomorrow” attitude in the conservative christian Right is based on the idea that none of this is permanent, that the bible is factual and literal, and that Jeebus is coming back aaaannny day now and he will make everything white I mean right.
No need to worry about the environment, economy or education system if nothing is real and everyone is going to be raptured to some magic place that lets you … bask in God’s glory? I have no idea what they actually think is going to happen in heaven, dead grandma is going to serve them cookies every day and they are going to be fine with it literally for INFINITY amount of time.
The entire narrative is so flimsy that it takes the concept of some huge conspiracy to keep it alive and remotely believable. This is the entire basis of the flat-earth movement as well.
Our species is lacking more than education and critical thought, we have large sections of the population lacking thought broadly, like no internal system of abstraction, language and comparison to find truth or objective reality. They just react to stimuli and go through life on auto-pilot and emotion. This is why these “movements” persist for hundreds or thousands of years despite all evidence to them being utter bullshit.
Because religious people also know that reason and rationality and evidence is the way to go, so they’re trying to assert that science is actually dogmatic and refusing reality while the Bible is factually correct and not the dogmatic garbage which it actually is.
Most scientists who study it literally agree that Jesus Christ was a real person who lived around the time and had a following. They just disagree on the divinity aspect. But they are totally fine with saying “yeah, this dude probably existed and preached”. Science has NO PROBLEM with religion, it just doesn’t blindly believe it. Noah’s flood is another example of “these stories were likely based on some actual events that occured”.
If giants were real, just like pygmies are real, we’d happily discuss them.
Just to point out that Noah’s Ark is lifted from a Sumerian(?) story that is linked to the epic of Gilgamesh. Also Meltwater pulse 1B probably left some cultural memories that got merged with it at some point.
I’m referring to “a great flood” which, yes, tho exaggerated, many scientists believe did occur and was the basis for such stories.
Yeah that’s also what I’m referring to, a good amount of the story beats were taken from the Sumerian Flood Myth. Meltwater Pulse 1B was a major flooding event that raised the sea level quite a bit within about 80 years and is probably the basis of a lot of flood myths.
Or even just the floodplains of the Nile flooding. A persons concept of “The World” was much smaller back then. If everything you know is flooded, that might as well be the whole world from your perspective.
Oh most certainly, it’s a matter of perspective of the times. Most of my ancestry lived and died on two gods forsaken islands off the coast of Europe, I live on the otherside of an ocean and a continent they didn’t know about in a climate they only knew from myth. We can argue over what the origins were for millenia as people before us have and still come to no conclusion because those who wove said myths are gone with the only trace being said myths.
Makes you wonder what parts of our current history will get garbled in 500 years and start becoming the stuff of myths.
Depends what happens between now and then and what survives. We have pretty accurate documents from Rome and thusly a sober interpretation or at least as much as you can get. Meanwhile the viking age is as much legends as it is history, the difference between myth and legend is blurry but generally when spirits and gods get involved in a direct sense it’s myth with a few exceptions. King Arthur and Beowulf are myth, De Bruce and Davey Crocket are in the early stages of legend.