• legion02@lemmy.world
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    1 month ago

    If you look around at what’s happening right now you’ll see this was a false choice. Trump was always going to give Bibi whatever he wanted.

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      1 month ago

      Taking a step back and having the revelation that your electoralism means definitive genocide no matter who’s in power should not be a reason to dig in and defend your electoralism. It should be reason to tear everything down.

      Otherwise, youre taking the stance that Palestinians have a duty to allow themselves genocided to buy yourself time for more political waffling.

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      1 month ago

      So did Biden and Harris wasn’t going to be any different. Biden even went around Congress to make damn sure Bibi got exactly what he wanted and then some.

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        1 month ago

        The progressive side of our politics still lives in the dem party and we have a better chance of getting our ideas out there in that party. Either by election like Mamdani or by appointment like Lina Khan.

        To be clear I don’t think Lina Khan was a lefty. Still her tenure in the FCC was rather pro consumer and pushing back on big corporations. That would not happen at all in any rep admin.

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          1 month ago

          It’s more about power than ideas. The problem with the establishment Dems is not that they have the wrong ideas but that they have been purchased by the oligarchs who get to win whether they get a D or an R.

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            1 month ago

            The thread is about both-sides-sim. I pointed out a case in how its still helpful to vote as left as possible.

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              1 month ago

              Yeah and left is not letting Bibi get a single thing, even if that means losing Israel as an ally and supporting a party that’s not a major one.