• excral@feddit.org
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    6 hours ago

    ITT: people pretending others “cheese” some unfair advantages by having kids when having kids is almost always a net negative in terms of time, money, career opportunities and so much more.

    People who choose not to have kids do so for a reason, don’t pretend these factors don’t exist for parents. As a society we need a next generation, how would you ever retire otherwise? Because of this we should support parents, not envy them for whatever small benefits they get to slightly offset all the disadvantages and are often absolutely necessary to allow them to raise kids.

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      5 hours ago

      The only thing my heart can count as net negative is sleep time. It is completely fuked. Btw do not expect colleagues to help you. Do not expect your parents to help you. Everyone has their own life

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      5 hours ago

      Net negative… You either don’t have a kid or had it unplanned. It is hard but no way it is net negative if you knew beforehand and made a responsible decision

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        5 hours ago

        If you’re a man.

        Having children is almost always a net negative for women. There’s even a term for it: “The Motherhood Penalty”

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            4 hours ago

            Of course it depends - I’m sure there are women out there with very supportive employers who didn’t see any decrease in their wages related to them being mothers.

            But the majority of women, even when a child is planned, experience a net negative on their total earnings and career advancements.

            Men simply don’t see that kind of treatment from becoming fathers.