I think people fail to understand what it means to work in America. Y’all Europeans really have no clue how bad we have it. If your job is accommodating you because you have kids and someone else complains, your company doesn’t accommodate both. They cancel your accommodation because of “fairness”. There is no ADA accommodation for kids.
The fact they agreed to it in the first place is a miracle. So yes people with no kids need to stfu. You already winning by keeping your money and more free time. Let parents have this one thing.
That’s no different line of reasoning if you said billionaires don’t have too much money they are just bad a resource dispersal because we’ve built our society to reward greed and individualism. Which I wholly reject as well.
You aren’t wrong that we need to fix a lot of things such as our management or resources and waste products, and that greed and individualism are things we need to curtail, but just from water and food production going into the climate change we already have experienced, the global population is much worse off than it would be if we worked to reduce the global population by at least 1/3rd. (Under about 6.5 billion a d 4.9 being maximally ideal iirc)
That’s just how the data wizards worked things out. That number is not a static number either. If magically we woke up tomorrow and all of the systemic problems were suddenly functioning in the best possible technical capability we have right now, the global population could support about 18-20 billion if they were spread out maximally.
But that’s just not the reality we live in. We have so much waste both in usable things like food waste, and garbage from end of the line material(mostly plastic
That’s the conclusion I’ve arrived at after looking into this topic multiple multiple times. (I started looking at it seriously when countries began pulling out of the Kyoto Accords) I could be mistaken about some of the information I hold to be true, and if I am I will need to readjust my perspective on this, but I’m not going to do that with you. I dont have the patience or grace to argue with people who want to ignore reality.
If you don’t like living in society you’re welcome to leave, and the people destroying the planet are a cabal of wealthy overlords not the average working family.
The rich do far more damage individually. But certainly the one simple thing everyone can do to make the world a better place is to have fewer children.
I pay $3-4k more in taxes when I file with my wife. I get $2k per kid as a deduction. Married costs me. I get a little back for kids. But $2k is one month of daycare per child.
So… No. No special treatment. I don’t get more sick days when my kids are sick. I don’t get less work because I have children. I don’t get easier projects because I’m a father. Whatever special treatment you think we parents are getting is delusional.
I think people fail to understand what it means to work in America. Y’all Europeans really have no clue how bad we have it. If your job is accommodating you because you have kids and someone else complains, your company doesn’t accommodate both. They cancel your accommodation because of “fairness”. There is no ADA accommodation for kids.
The fact they agreed to it in the first place is a miracle. So yes people with no kids need to stfu. You already winning by keeping your money and more free time. Let parents have this one thing.
The problem isn’t the people without kids who complain, the problem is the company taking the flexibility away from everyone and being greedy
Why do I have to subsidize your weak pull-out game?
You don’t. Just do your job and don’t worry what other people have going on.
But it is my business. My taxes subsidize people who don’t seem to care what effect their actions have on me or the world.
Housing prices are skyrocketing due to overpopulation (among other factors).
Climate change. Access to water, made worse by both more people and the climate change the engender.
Who are you to tell me it’s none of my business?
https://phys.org/news/2026-03-global-human-population-earth.html
Because the continuation of society requires children.
We are massively overpopulated already.
Those who choose not to have kids are Making room already in all the pediatric and child services they will never use.
Those with kids benefit when those without kids get the same treatment.
We’re not overpopulated, we’re bad at resource dispersal because we’ve built our society to reward greed and individualism.
That’s no different line of reasoning if you said billionaires don’t have too much money they are just bad a resource dispersal because we’ve built our society to reward greed and individualism. Which I wholly reject as well.
You aren’t wrong that we need to fix a lot of things such as our management or resources and waste products, and that greed and individualism are things we need to curtail, but just from water and food production going into the climate change we already have experienced, the global population is much worse off than it would be if we worked to reduce the global population by at least 1/3rd. (Under about 6.5 billion a d 4.9 being maximally ideal iirc)
That’s just how the data wizards worked things out. That number is not a static number either. If magically we woke up tomorrow and all of the systemic problems were suddenly functioning in the best possible technical capability we have right now, the global population could support about 18-20 billion if they were spread out maximally.
But that’s just not the reality we live in. We have so much waste both in usable things like food waste, and garbage from end of the line material(mostly plastic
That’s the conclusion I’ve arrived at after looking into this topic multiple multiple times. (I started looking at it seriously when countries began pulling out of the Kyoto Accords) I could be mistaken about some of the information I hold to be true, and if I am I will need to readjust my perspective on this, but I’m not going to do that with you. I dont have the patience or grace to argue with people who want to ignore reality.
People are destroying the planet and causing others to suffer. Having more than one kid is negligence.
And I’m not particularly impressed with “society” at the moment, so stop doing me “favors.”
But thank you for your “service” in “saving” civilization. 🫡
https://phys.org/news/2026-03-global-human-population-earth.html
If you don’t like living in society you’re welcome to leave, and the people destroying the planet are a cabal of wealthy overlords not the average working family.
I am? Okay where can I go that has no society? How do I get there? Am I allowed to be there?
But you are.
The rich do far more damage individually. But certainly the one simple thing everyone can do to make the world a better place is to have fewer children.
Better continue to punch down on parents then. That’s totally gonna help.
Let’s go ahead and just get rid of rape and abuse while we’re at it. It’s just so easy, right?
Who’s “punching down”? The childfree are the victims.
And your second point is the saddest hail-Mary “argument winner” I’ve ever seen. 😄
Go tell the other parents at the PTA meeting how you’re such victims of da ebul child-free city dwellers. I ain’t interested in it.
The childfree are the victims?
Haaaaaahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Because I have to subsidize your father’s weak pull-out game.
All the money I make is taxed as income and I have no deductions.
Parents get deductions for each kid. And just for being married. And special treatment at work.
Cry me a river.
I pay $3-4k more in taxes when I file with my wife. I get $2k per kid as a deduction. Married costs me. I get a little back for kids. But $2k is one month of daycare per child.
So… No. No special treatment. I don’t get more sick days when my kids are sick. I don’t get less work because I have children. I don’t get easier projects because I’m a father. Whatever special treatment you think we parents are getting is delusional.
Pretty presumptuous to assume that all people with children are married.
The cost of raising said children is far more than a tax deduction.
So don’t do it?
Don’t ask me to help, anyway. I didn’t ask you to have more children.
Cry me a river.
I might, since I’m the one paying for a worse world because narcissists imagine more of their DNA makes the world a better place.
Yeah parents don’t pay for shit in this world, right?