• Takapapatapaka@tarte.nuage-libre.fr
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    Why does he even pick the case of a 12-year hold pregnant person ? Isn’t that like, the case were almost everyone can agree that abortion makes even more sense than usual ? Have i missed that somehow conservatives consider it to be worse than when adult people abort ?

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      At this point, I think a decent chunk of them are pedophiles with breeding fetishes who get off on the idea of impregnating children.

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      makes even more sense than usual

      You’re talking about the all-or-nothing, absolute rule, zero-sum game gang, here. The concept of nuance is so far removed from the conservative headspace, it may as well be science fiction.

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      I think their idea here is that 12 year olds should be in school instead of sneaking around getting abortions. Which makes sense if you don’t care about context or lack basic humanity

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        I know when I was 12 everyone was getting abortions. It was just the cool thing to do. Some girls would get together and have sleepover abortion parties. I went and got one myself just to see what all the fuss was about. Of course as a guy I got some pushback initially, but eventually I joined the cool crowd

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        12 year olds should be in school instead of sneaking around getting abortions.

        Absolutely! That’s why sex education, and talking about consent and safety are ao important.

        An 12 year old needing an abortion is such a tragedy, it should be prevented. But if it comes to that, if it is needed, she should have access to safe medical care.

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      Most 12 year olds would risk death to give birth, so yes, most people would agree that both on the grounds that it’s a raped child and on the grounds that the pregnancy could be fatal to the mother.

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        Fatal to the mother is just a perk of pregnancy according to the Christians who hold life to be sacred.

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      No, what you missed is that these people are all pedophiles, and part of their weird Christian nationalism is that they hate women having agency, so they need to be impregnating them before that happens.

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      No. No abortion makes sense to them (except their own wives’) when they use it as justification to remove agency and bodily autonomy from women.

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      It’s implied in their text that the 12-year old girl is the child of leftists and because of that is already sexually active. Since the left is sex positive that obviously means they’re teaching their kids to be deviants by a very young age. Obviously daughter of proper right wing Christian Americans would never do that because she blah, blah, blah.

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          Exactly, those liberal woke parents would otherwise persuade and or force her to have an abortion just because

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        Even that’s dumb because I grew up hearing that the Catholic girls are the ones you want to hook up with.

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      Maybe where they live a 12 year old girl can be expected to drive? So getting to a medical center two hours away is easy and convenient? and the nearest medical center is 2 hours away

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        It says “travel” which can mean by foot, bike, hitchhiking, zeppelin, the list goes on and on

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          Right. So it’s ok for a 12 year old pregnant girl to walk two hours to a medical center by themselves? No matter how correct and complete you try to be, there’s all kinds of wrong with this picture

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            there’s all kinds of wrong with this picture

            True but a school girl taking the bus just isn’t that bad. I’m not justifying anything else about it.

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      Maybe it’s meant to be extra edgy? This isn’t the tone you use when you try to convince people who aren’t already on your side.