• Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.comOP
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    Fun fact: for millions of Americans, voting IS deliberately made extremely difficult if not downright impossible so that the fascists are competitive in elections in spite of only ever appealing to an ever-shrinking minority of potential voters.

    The number of votes that the Mango Mussolini “won” by was significantly lower than the number of voters effectively disenfranchised, and that was also the case in dozens of Senate and House elections that other fascists “won”.

    Ok, not that fun, but it IS a fact.

    • Norah (pup/it/she)@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      Even if you can vote, the likelihood you’re in a gerrymandered district where your vote isn’t gonna matter is pretty high. Let alone the electoral college.

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      only ever appealing to an ever-shrinking minority of potential voters.

      Fascist candidates are appealing to ever-greater numbers, not fewer

      The number of votes that the Mango Mussolini “won” by was significantly lower than the number of voters effectively disenfranchised

      This part is true , but i suspect not for the reason being implied.

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        Fascist candidates are appealing to ever-greater numbers, not fewer

        Not in proportion to the total population. While there’s a worrying trend of voting age and younger Gen Z men being sucked in by the manosphere bullshit, their core Red or Dead constituency is still so old and (due to their disdain for public health) sickly that they’re dying faster than they can be replaced by new converts.

        This part is true , but i suspect not for the reason being implied.

        Which reason do you suspect, then? Leprechauns?

        Regardless of whether there’s a causal link, I’ll never consider a party that systematically disenfranchises people as legitimate winners of elections, least of all ones they’ve specifically tampered with themselves and “win” by a lower number of votes than they’ve eliminated from the rolls for no valid reasons.

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          Not in proportion to the total population

          No, that’s what I mean - sounds like you’re referring to the total republican base as fascist (under normal circumstances I’d be fine with this generality), but my point is that fascist sentiment within that cluster has exploded in popularity.

          True, gerrymandering is disenfranchising millions of democratic voters, along with closing polling locations - but the disenfranchising I’m more concerned with is the voting block being pushed into nihilism by a lack of action by the opposition. That makes the fascist party far more attractive to even typically moderate voters who might not agree with the more violent aspects of fascism but agree that stronger action is necessary.

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      for millions of Americans, voting IS deliberately made extremely difficult if not downright impossible so that the fascists are competitive in elections in spite of only ever appealing to an ever-shrinking minority of potential voters.

      Fascist candidates were also doing just fine before. The supposedly better ability to vote didn’t change anything.