Well sorry then. I dont really have sympathy for people who are able to work and won’t live where the work is because its “boring”. That sounds a little whiny to me. This is why I’m on the fence about ubi and such. Lazy shitheads that could work and produce value but refuse.
Obviously the disabled or unable to work should have safety nets, yes. But whiny people who dont want to do hard jobs or live in a boring place, sorry, suck it up. For millions of years if you didnt do the hard work, you died. Its not that bad.
Also, if you can’t find things to do in a city of 200k, youre the problem. There’s a shit ton to do.
Why do hard work in a boring place when you can do it in an interesting place?
i grew up in a boring place. i’d never work or live in such a place ever again. i like having access to culture and not having to drive everywhere. being happy is a lot better than being depressed to the point of being suicidal everyday.
qualify of life matters a lot. not everyone wants to be miserable just to make more money or have a lower cost of living.
also, young people want ot be around other young people. they dont’ want to hang out with people 20-40 years older than them, hence why they go to cities.
other people aren’t you. they don’t want what you want. they have different standards. what is success for you, is failure for them. where i live my salary is considered barely above poverty level.
I mean, I regularly work with people 30 years older than me. Its fine. I have friends outside of work. Work is for getting paid. You dont need to enjoy it.
This is exactly why ubi will never work. People will not do the crappy jobs if everyone gets the same pay. There has to be leverage there or youre never going to have a working sewer plant again.
Lazy shitheads that could work and produce value but refuse.
Modern economies have so much excess, the vast majority of the population could sit on their ass and have enough to ‘survive’. And the more jobs are automated, theres less need for human laborers.
Who’s going to get your garbage or run the sewer plant ? Who’s going to take care of the sick crackhead in the ER? Who’s going to fix your roof in July? Thus may sound mean, but I sure as fuck ain’t doing any of that for free.
It seems people think all jobs are working the front desk at best buy or being a waiter. There’s so many jobs you have no clue about behind the scenes of your everyday life.
If youre able but unwilling to work, you get a decent living. Apartment and free healthcare.
If you want to put in effort, then you get to have fancier things. It makes sense. Thats how it should work now, except there’s zero safety net for those who can’t work.
Well sorry then. I dont really have sympathy for people who are able to work and won’t live where the work is because its “boring”. That sounds a little whiny to me. This is why I’m on the fence about ubi and such. Lazy shitheads that could work and produce value but refuse.
Obviously the disabled or unable to work should have safety nets, yes. But whiny people who dont want to do hard jobs or live in a boring place, sorry, suck it up. For millions of years if you didnt do the hard work, you died. Its not that bad.
Also, if you can’t find things to do in a city of 200k, youre the problem. There’s a shit ton to do.
Why do hard work in a boring place when you can do it in an interesting place?
i grew up in a boring place. i’d never work or live in such a place ever again. i like having access to culture and not having to drive everywhere. being happy is a lot better than being depressed to the point of being suicidal everyday.
qualify of life matters a lot. not everyone wants to be miserable just to make more money or have a lower cost of living.
also, young people want ot be around other young people. they dont’ want to hang out with people 20-40 years older than them, hence why they go to cities.
other people aren’t you. they don’t want what you want. they have different standards. what is success for you, is failure for them. where i live my salary is considered barely above poverty level.
Yep thats understandable.
I mean, I regularly work with people 30 years older than me. Its fine. I have friends outside of work. Work is for getting paid. You dont need to enjoy it.
This is exactly why ubi will never work. People will not do the crappy jobs if everyone gets the same pay. There has to be leverage there or youre never going to have a working sewer plant again.
Thats insane. I’d move if I were you.
i love it here. i’ll never leave until i retire.
Keep saving up then!
I would actually like to move someday, but its so nice and cheap here that I’ll take driving to places I like over living there and being poor.
Modern economies have so much excess, the vast majority of the population could sit on their ass and have enough to ‘survive’. And the more jobs are automated, theres less need for human laborers.
I wish we could test this to be true !
Who’s going to get your garbage or run the sewer plant ? Who’s going to take care of the sick crackhead in the ER? Who’s going to fix your roof in July? Thus may sound mean, but I sure as fuck ain’t doing any of that for free.
It seems people think all jobs are working the front desk at best buy or being a waiter. There’s so many jobs you have no clue about behind the scenes of your everyday life.
Simple. People that want more luxuries than basic needs.
Thats something I’d be all for
If youre able but unwilling to work, you get a decent living. Apartment and free healthcare.
If you want to put in effort, then you get to have fancier things. It makes sense. Thats how it should work now, except there’s zero safety net for those who can’t work.