Bet they didn’t even try nepotism
Maybe take a shower and don’t wear pajama bottoms to that job interview
From the messages I get, I suspect there are scammers scraping Indeed for vulnerable individuals. Sometimes I get legit texts from companies looking to hire in my field. Other times I get texts from… questionable sources. They promise numbers that don’t make sense for entry level, in fields I don’t work in, usually calling themselves “sales” with the promise of being able to work from your phone. They give me “join my pyramid scheme” vibes.
So yeah, it seems there are real job positions, fake job positions, and scammers looking to expand. What a fantastic job market. /s
145 is pussy shit bro you got to think in terms of 10x
145? those are some rookie numbers anon
anytime i apply for FT work I’m sending out like 300+ applications over 3-4 months before I land anything. start to finsish my job searches were all 4-6 months. most interviews I got were 6-12 weeks after application. some places took me like 2-3 months to hire after the 1st interview and by the time is started i was getting multiple interview offers from other places, months after i had applied.
So tired of telling the older crowd—including my parents—that shit no longer works that way…
Nah, it does. Service industry though, or independent retail. Get a stack of CVs, pound that shoe leather. Bars, restaurants, smaller shops, cleaners, gardeners are all good candidates. Be prepared to work a shitty job. Turn up and smash it. Next job will easier to acquire
You mean the bars that are shutting at 2 per day?
The restaurants that are being replaced by Deliveroo?
The shops that are replacing humans with computers or are so small they’re only hiring 1 or 2 people out of a pool of thousands?
The jobs that the government is paying £3k per business to employee under 24s therefore locking out anyone above 24?
Or the gardening jobs which entail cutting down any chance of wildlife surviving within our gardens and then spraying the desolation with herbicide?
Apart from a cleaner I’ve done all of those jobs in my time, and it’s not like it used to be. I’ve also been on unemployment relatively recently and that system is utter bollocks, which gives you nowhere near enough to buy groceries let alone pay rent, electricity, etc. Not to mention the waste of time going into the job centre every 2 weeks to be told to keep looking.
Get with the times old man, it’s not like it used to be. At least not in Scotland, where we’re both based.
I know someone that did this in Fort William just last year, and Edinburgh this. I’m not saying it is easy, and this is just annecdata. But it does still work. Requires a cheery disposition I will add too, and less ageism
Historic Environment Scotland is doing hiring rounds right now for Edinburgh based positions. Heard through a friend’s brother. I’ll see if I can find the link.
Found the link, but looks like the “not much skill required” jobs have been filled.
Know HES gets a pretty bad wrap with all the (warranted) negative press, but I know a few folk who work there and it sounds like a reasonably decent employer, and bottom grade pays better than minimum wage. 🤷https://ekov.fa.em3.oraclecloud.com/hcmUI/CandidateExperience/en/sites/CX_2001/jobs
Sir, we dont take kindly to hard work around here.
/s
It really depends where you are. Also, I’m not sure I’d want those shitty jobs when tbh, I have a lot more value to offer than stocking shelves. Even in my current job which is very specialized, I’m always wanting to learn and grow more.
What if you are 1% too disabled for those lines of work?
American: They used to hurl infants off cliffs back in the old days, and as far as I’m aware, fascism hasn’t changed much.
Anywhere else: Welfare
Then you file for SSDI
That’s a good one
My experience feels kinda like getting a job I apply to is easy but 99% of adverts are fake.
If I hear back from them I will have a high chance of getting the job, but almost never hear back from them.
a lot of job listings are fake, yes. as in their is a legit job, but the person they will hire for it will be someone’s kid who already works there, or another insider/connection. all external candidates will be ignored and are essentially throwing their application into the void.
for a lot of companies the job process is about telling themselves and the world they aren’t playing favorites, but they 100% are hiring the person with the connection who is less qualified than external candidates.
i remember in college/grad school, they had to publicly list all the research/assistant jobs, but the only people who got them were internal candidates who who already students, so basically 100% of those job listings were ‘fake’ and while they might interview a few applicants, anyone who applied was never going to get the job.
Why do they do this? Just hire that person if you are going to anyway.
Worked in companies where the owners family for hired for multiple roles. As long as they are not incompetent I don’t really care that they didn’t send out fake job adverts. If they were incompetent then fake job ads won’t help.
because it’s a requirement to do so and it looks bad if you don’t. especially if your company is public facing.
it’s about plausible deniability, to avoid accusations or legal cases of of discrimination, either criminal or civil.
Hiring someone without interviewing anyone else isn’t discrimination
hOw eLsE WiLL wE cOnViNcE tHe ShArEhOLdErS wE’rE gRoWiNg!?
Tell the shareholders to shove it up their fucking arse
I know places that I worked for or kept an eye on after interviewing and reaching final stages (talking to founders) doing exactly that
Place A (I worked for): 13 job entries permanently open although they are not hiring and didn’t hire a new person in over 2 years
Place B (I worked for): 1 job entry looking the same for the past 7 years, last one hired for that position started 3 years ago
Place C (open source project with enough funding to hire people): 2 positions permanently open but didn’t hire in 3 years (Rotki)
Place D (similar to C): 4 jobs (CVAT)
Place E (failed Open source + enterprise plan project): 1 job (SuperduperDB)
(I can’t disclose the first 2 for obvious reasons)
So it feels this how it’s gonna be now I guess
hOw eLsE WiLL wE cOnViNcE tHe ShArEhOLdErS wE’rE gRoWiNg!?
I’m probably past 300 now. Luckily my province has a robust welfare system else I would’ve lost my stapler.
That really is a nice stapler
A lot of old advice is just straight up not applicable and wastes everyone’s time. Outside of some old, tiny local business, you’re not gonna hand a resume to anyone. It’s all done online now.
So insane when i read these. I feel for y’all, that would really suck to apply that much. You could try moving to a smaller city?. Ive been hired at every job ive applied to, and I’m not even a programmer or crazy smart engineer type. And now I make almost as much as those folks. Its either dumb luck or I just give off good first impressions. And no, it has nothing to do with family, they’re crazy people and I’m mostly cut off from them.
If I had to apply now though, I bet I’d have a harder time because of tech bs and I’m old.
Ive only lived in cities under 200k people.
Ive been hired at every job ive applied to
That’s crazy. Straight out of high-school, I spent about six months driving around and applying to a job or 2 every day before I got a job (applying to pretty much every business in the small towns I lived near; McDonald’s, Wendy’s, Walmart, factories, everything). Now, I’m an unemployed software engineer, and I’ve probably applied to > 500 jobs, and still no luck (I think every job posting gets > 1000 applications in this job market). The vast majority of the time, I never actually get a chance to even talk to a person to impress them with my awkwardness and anxiety :)
different people live in different worlds, and are unable to understand other people aren’t them.
OP is a big fish in a small pond, that has never spent any time in bigger ponds.
I understand it, I just choose to live in less populated areas. I don’t believe humans should be crammed together like sardines in the millions. Sad way to live, for me.
Ah, I do feel bad for ya. Tbh you probably deserve way more pay than me. I can’t do any of that stuff.
Maybe there is just too many people in the world wanting the same job. Idk how to fix it!! I’d be all for automating everything as much as possible but that just leads to us being destitute slaves with no agency even worse than now. At least right now we have a tiny bit of power with our labor, which is all we have against the ruling class
it’s dumb luck, or you were born into money and have the social connections to get high end jobs.
being well-paid has nothing to do with intelligence. it’s mostly a product of your social class and the privileges and connections it brings. when i was 22 my friends were being hired into 90-180K jobs w/ English degrees, because their parents got them jobs in tech companies. I got a 30K job after applying to 300+ places.
my second job i made 50K, meanwhile my friends had moved on to jobs in the 200-300K range, with minimal experience.
and today I make 150K, an they make like 500K and have now have millions in stock options and will inherent millions more. and they don’t interact with me anymore because they think i’m a poor loser who failed at life, unlike them, who clearly worked way harder than me, hence all their ‘success’. meanwhile i inherited 150K, which was basically chump change
Socially awkward, 0 friends from school , not born into money, (was never given an allowance or any if the sort, moved out at 17.)
Also, ive never had a high end job , unless you consider being in factories high end. My current one, maybe is moreso.
A big part is that I’m good at making people like me (insecure), working hard, and willingness to learn. That sounds boomer, but goes a hell of a long way. And again, I think its because of smaller cities. I would never live in these million person cities myself, and I probably would have no chance there.
That said that was years ago before the world really went to shit. So I’m sure its a lot worse now.
Here’s a tip though, keep watch for jobs in water reclamation facilities, food processing facilities etc. They ALWAY need smart people and they have an ass ton of money they dont know what to do with. They pay good. Fuel plants too. These are jobs you probably won’t see on your normal listings, and they’re usually a little farther from cities. But thats what you gotta do. Get a high mpg car or an ev and do the long commute until you find something better or closer.
Youre not gonna find a great job right away, sad to say. I ive been through many shit ones. But ya know what? Any time I was going to leave, they all wanted me to stay, becuase they realized I made them more money or made their jobs easier. . By that time though the low pay was getting to me.
Obviously this isnt for everyone. But its not impossible.
Oh I saw your edit, you literally make double what I do! I guess you live above your means or a very high cost of living area then. I feel rich with what I make tbh. I dont drive fancy cars or live in a new house or have campers and toys lke that. My clothes are 15 years old. My PC is 15 years old. I shop at aldi. I also have savings and small investments. But my area is pretty lcol.
Wait, you INHERITED 150k and are complaining? Are you a troll?? If you got that much and are struggling , thats on you.
young people don’t want to live in small cities. they are boring.
Here is the thing they really shouldnrealize though.
Most smallncities are close enough to large cities. Especially for how much of theb"exciting stuff" you end up actually doing. And you get a massive sabings in Cost of Living.
Like I am in the middle of Illinois. My COL is superlow. If I want to go to a concert, I can easily hit Chicago, St Louis, or Indianapolis in a 3 hour drive, get a hotel if I need to, and still be out ahead because my rent/mortgage isn’t some rediculous 2000/month+.
Also, at the risk of sounding like some.boomer, I feel like too many young people have overly huge expectations on jobs. They come out of college thinking they are going to land a 100k/year+ job instantly. Like, hey, you are probably going to have to start with that 30k/ywar job. Sorry, that is life.
30k/year job.
That’s what I did, but a good small starter home was $100k – I bought one for under $50k and fixed it up. A nice used car was $5k.
$30k is poverty wages in most places these days.
Well sorry then. I dont really have sympathy for people who are able to work and won’t live where the work is because its “boring”. That sounds a little whiny to me. This is why I’m on the fence about ubi and such. Lazy shitheads that could work and produce value but refuse.
Obviously the disabled or unable to work should have safety nets, yes. But whiny people who dont want to do hard jobs or live in a boring place, sorry, suck it up. For millions of years if you didnt do the hard work, you died. Its not that bad.
Also, if you can’t find things to do in a city of 200k, youre the problem. There’s a shit ton to do.
Why do hard work in a boring place when you can do it in an interesting place?
i grew up in a boring place. i’d never work or live in such a place ever again. i like having access to culture and not having to drive everywhere. being happy is a lot better than being depressed to the point of being suicidal everyday.
qualify of life matters a lot. not everyone wants to be miserable just to make more money or have a lower cost of living.
also, young people want ot be around other young people. they dont’ want to hang out with people 20-40 years older than them, hence why they go to cities.
other people aren’t you. they don’t want what you want. they have different standards. what is success for you, is failure for them. where i live my salary is considered barely above poverty level.
Yep thats understandable.
I mean, I regularly work with people 30 years older than me. Its fine. I have friends outside of work. Work is for getting paid. You dont need to enjoy it.
This is exactly why ubi will never work. People will not do the crappy jobs if everyone gets the same pay. There has to be leverage there or youre never going to have a working sewer plant again.
Thats insane. I’d move if I were you.
i love it here. i’ll never leave until i retire.
Lazy shitheads that could work and produce value but refuse.
Modern economies have so much excess, the vast majority of the population could sit on their ass and have enough to ‘survive’. And the more jobs are automated, theres less need for human laborers.
I wish we could test this to be true !
Who’s going to get your garbage or run the sewer plant ? Who’s going to take care of the sick crackhead in the ER? Who’s going to fix your roof in July? Thus may sound mean, but I sure as fuck ain’t doing any of that for free.
It seems people think all jobs are working the front desk at best buy or being a waiter. There’s so many jobs you have no clue about behind the scenes of your everyday life.
