Been using LibreWolf browser for a short while now, pretty great if you get rid of some of the more radical features like full data cleansing on each shutdown.
And it’s based on Firefox, not Chromium, which is pretty sweet if you ask me
Also Vanadium for my phone, came preinstalled with GrapheneOS and I have no reason to change it, it’s really good too
yeah
librewolf is based
Obligatory fuck brave. What’s wrong with nord exactly?
What’s wrong with Brave?
It’s backed by fascist psychopath Peter Thiel and it, at least for a long time, promoted a crypto scam as a main browser feature.
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Not sure why you deleted this but I just found out Mullvad doesn’t support open VPN which is a deal breaker for me because I use a few different apps via docker with their traffic routed through https://hub.docker.com/r/qmcgaw/gluetun
I use Mullvad with Gluetun, works fine? I am currently using docker compose and container network mode for routing traffic through it
Ah that’s good to know. I think it may offer support via wire guard or something.
I don’t know much about Nord’s quality as a service, but I know that they really spearheaded the effort to spread misinformation on how Internet security works (claiming that a VPN would protect the information you enter into a website when HTTPS already does that) via YouTube ad reads. That alone is enough to make me swear off ever using them.
I’m under the impression https can be defeated by a man-in-the-middle attack if you’re not paying attention. Haven’t looked into it recently to be sure if that’s still the case or a solved issue, though. But that was one reason to use a VPN while on untrusted wifi, supposedly.
if you are using http yes, any modern website uses https, in most cases vpn will at least prevent dns hijacking (since unecrypted dns is still the default)
No, I’m definitely talking about https. Could be this is no longer a thing tho, I need to look it up.
Also they’re spending just wayyyyy too much on advertising for my taste.
Lots of VPNs are actually owned by one company, like Nordvpn and surfshark are both owned by Nord security, lemme find the list…
Urgh. I use Mullvad, it’s just 5€ per month and so far works great. I hope there’s nothing bad I don’t know about it. lol
They are the only VPN company with a clean record but personally only VPN I would trust is onion, garlic etc. kind of networks.
Mullvad complies to all legal requests!!
Which doesn’t matter since they’re properly setup for there to be nothing law enforcement can get out of them.
The only true and tested nolog VPN provider ever.
I thought PIA had ownership issues but had also been audited the same way?
You can do better than chrome with Edge. That way two companies are keeping your data secure instead of just one!
Yk what thank you, there’s always room for improvement
always lol @ brave
Yes, Google Chrome installs AI locally
without consentautomatically, Brave forces you to use their cloud services.… and Brave is also basically a marketing scam
Consent? What’s that, huh?
Do you know what consent is?
- Yes
- Remind me in 3 days
Can you tell me more about brave and what you mean?
When you launch Brave for the first time, it will push a lot of services like Brave News, Brave AI, their video call platform etc., all cloud services. Technically, they’re all open source, but I wouldn’t trust them. They have released a separate version, though, which keeps all this things disabled, which is paid on every platform except Linux builds.
Still, Brave is a whole lot better than Chrome, but I wouldn’t trust either.
Brave was created by an anti LGBT asshole
And an advertisement company
Do you know the stance of the Firefox (or other browser) creators on LGBT rights?
Yeah, Firefox fired the anti-lgbtq asshole when his donations came to light. So then he went and founded Brave.
So they fired one anti-LGBT person when he became high-profile (CEO). What about everyone else?
What is it you’re looking for us to validate?
Well I hung out with Mitchell Baker and she seemed pretty chill.
Everyone is so pressed about an on device model they’re not gonna even use. Like, yeah, it’s annoying, they should have told us, and it’s 4gb that could be taken off of my hard drive, but it’s a distraction from all the real issues out there that are much bigger that no one is complaining about.
What’s the thing you replaced with NordVPN? Just so I know to avoid it, of course.
Also, I’m not sure if you’re doing the same, but I collect all data about myself, including metadata, and mail it directly to the NSA. Just saves them the hassle.
Finally, finally, I can answer something. I recognize the logo.
https://obscura.com/Is this better than mullvad? I’ve had nord for a while but finally cancelled and am going to get a new one when my sub expires.
I’m on the same boat as you. Have had Nord for 2 years and 10 months, out of which the 10 months has been from me just sharing my link to people that wanted a VPN. I used to like them, then they started pushing bullahit on Android like not allowing me to just refuse notifications. Granted, after a shotload of complaining they finally gave me a link to an apk that did allow me to keep it’s notifications off without constantly nagging me to enable them, but that was the last straw. My subscription finally ends on May 13th. I’m on a family plan on Proton, so now I use that. The only benefits of a VPN for my needs are geoblocks and if I ever need to use a public Wifi, and even then, o usually just VPN into my home via wireguard anyway.
Doesn’t even support Android/iOS, still in its infancy, and the benefits it provides are not really needed unless you’re a high-profile individual in which case you should just use Tor + WebTunnel.
Seems like Obscura uses mullvads exit servers so I would imagine it would be a similar level of anonymity. Can’t speak on feature parity though, that will have to come from someone who has used both services.
Thank you very muchissimo!
Its either mullvad or nothing all day everyday
I find this to be 100% accurate and every one should follow this guide to maximize their security
whats wrong w Nordvpn
Way too expensive, the clients are proprietary except for the Linux one, and the amount of sponsorships they do just make them look more suspicious than anything.
How is NordVPN expensive? I had it for almost 3 years and turned out to be about US$2.80 per month for me.
Nothing. It’s rumors and hearsay. Probably the only negative is an alleged data breach, but that is not confirmed.
…thanks for replying
Whats the rumours and hearsay?
Some people claiming they log data, but they’re mixing it up with other VPN services that actually have been caught logging data. Some people have a problem with their refund policy, but they’re trying to get one after like 6 months or something stupid like that… come on.
Stupid little things.
Thanks - appreciate you taking the time
It’s a corporation. It is inherently not private. Your government will always be able to get its data. NSA can be presumed to log its activity, whether or not the corporation itself does.
Nord was headquartered in Panama specifically so they wouldn’t have to comply with data requests by intelligence agencies.
Not sure on their current status though.
whats the one above nordvpn?
its obscura, basicly mullvad with a relay for making it impossible to log who you are, if i understand correctly
i also didn’t know what it was credit
Just use mullvad vpn
That’s not an aswer though.
That is an answer, maybe not an answer you wanted, but still an answer.
Answer to a question nobody asked?
Nope. It’s a response, but it’s not an answer.
You’re stacked alright…
