• calcopiritus@lemmy.world
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    3 hours ago

    In only a few years, most batteries will be made without lithium anyway.

    Citation needed.

      • TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today
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        2 hours ago

        Ehh… Lithium batteries are going to be around for quite a while even if sodium ion batteries take off. It’s just more energy dense than sodium ion, so it’s always going to be better for things like portable electronics.

        Sodium ion might take over the market for heavier batteries like stationary power banks.

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        2 hours ago

        Consult a periodic table. Lithium will always out perform sodium. Sodium batteries only exist because lithium costs more, but these large deposits are being found worldwide every few months and lithium will drop in price as a commodity. At some point, recycling will require much less new lithium to be mined.

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            1 hour ago

            Wood is cheaper than steel. Which apparently is the most important way to be better in. But I wouldn’t build a skyscraper out of it.

            Saying that energy density is not important in energy storage technology is as stupid as saying that material strength is not important in building materials.

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      2 hours ago

      Yes you may quote me, if you really need it.

      Or leave it. For reasonable people, it is obvious anyway.

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        1 hour ago

        I already quoted you. I don’t need your permission to do it.

        If you’re not gonna even try to defend your position you’re just spreading misinformation.

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            2 hours ago

            Yes. Chinese manufacturers are using sodium batteries in some low-range cheap city-cars, too. But fundamentally there is less energy storage in a charged sodium atom than a charged lithium atom so it seems sodium batteries must always be bigger and heavier than equivalent-capacity lithium batteries.