Employees, in a great many cases, don’t identify themselves with “the company.” If you go off on a rant about a specific race, or a specific gender, you’re damn right someone of that race or gender is going to be put off by it and interpret it as at least a bit about them.
Just flip the scenario to one where the man is complaining that “women suck” or that a white person is complaining that “black people suck” to their black date. And they can’t even - from the sounds of things - cough up a “present company excepted” - which you might well see doesn’t actually make it OK.
Like if you follow your example I don’t think the response is generally “I’m upset because you think I’m bad” but rather a declining respect for person generalizing a complaing.
The other thing is in dating women usually want to identify violent men (which a portion of men are) so you do want to trip their anger while you’re still in public and see how they respond. So I think that in a dating scenario specifically the role reversal becomes nonsensical (there’s just statistically less violent women to suss out so the the dynamics on what’s being evaluated is different).
I’m not saying this is good way to press people’s buttons, but it is a way to do it and I don’t really understand people taking things personally in this dynamic.
Do they say that to the board of directors?
Employees, in a great many cases, don’t identify themselves with “the company.” If you go off on a rant about a specific race, or a specific gender, you’re damn right someone of that race or gender is going to be put off by it and interpret it as at least a bit about them.
Just flip the scenario to one where the man is complaining that “women suck” or that a white person is complaining that “black people suck” to their black date. And they can’t even - from the sounds of things - cough up a “present company excepted” - which you might well see doesn’t actually make it OK.
Like if you follow your example I don’t think the response is generally “I’m upset because you think I’m bad” but rather a declining respect for person generalizing a complaing.
The other thing is in dating women usually want to identify violent men (which a portion of men are) so you do want to trip their anger while you’re still in public and see how they respond. So I think that in a dating scenario specifically the role reversal becomes nonsensical (there’s just statistically less violent women to suss out so the the dynamics on what’s being evaluated is different).
I’m not saying this is good way to press people’s buttons, but it is a way to do it and I don’t really understand people taking things personally in this dynamic.