• Optional@lemmy.worldOP
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    24 hours ago

    No. It isn’t. Not for Americans. And people here use it wrong on purpose and it’s kind of infuriating.

    Yes, you can use it that way if you’re a political scientist, a radical Marxist, or a teen.

    Yes, other countries use it that way.

    If you’re saying American liberals want the masses to have their money flow to the rich while avoiding the tax man you’re wrong.

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      23 hours ago

      Would you consider Obama a liberal? Because the ACA was literally designed to funnel tax money to his big-dollar donors in the private sector.

      And lol “a political scientist, a Marxist, and a teen walk into a bar…” What an utterly incoherent perspective jfc

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        18 hours ago

        Would you consider Clinton a liberal?

        The Clinton health care plan of 1993, colloquially referred to as Hillarycare, was an American healthcare reform package proposed by the Clinton administration and closely associated with the chair of the task force devising the plan, first lady Hillary Clinton. Bill Clinton had campaigned heavily on health care in the 1992 presidential election. The task force was created in January 1993, but its own processes were somewhat controversial and drew litigation. Its goal was to come up with a comprehensive plan to provide universal health care for all Americans, which was to be a cornerstone of the administration’s first-term agenda. President Clinton delivered a major health care speech to a joint session of the U.S. Congress on September 22, 1993, during which he proposed an enforced mandate for employers to provide health insurance coverage to all of their employees.

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        19 hours ago

        Hey, Optional is alright. I don’t agree with them in this instance, but I know them from other conversations, and they are not the enemy.

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        Can I get some of what you’re smoking please?

        You know the United States are not the center of the universe, right?

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          Christ.

          The terms were coined during the French Revolution based on where folks sat.

          The left was aligned with American liberalism values. American Liberalism emerging at the time through the American Revolution.

          The current push to change its meaning not withstanding