• ImgurRefugee114@reddthat.com
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    9 days ago

    Yeah that’s the thing about authoritarians; they don’t have a problem with the boot, they just want it to be on the other foot. No better. Different axis, but the political compass looks more like a triangle than a square to me.

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      Oh noooo authoritarians who use that power to build affordable housing and transportation infrastructure, break up monopolies and capitalist machinations which gouge people trying to pay for food and healthcare. No please noooooooo. Let’s keep fighting this because it’s no different from pedophile billionaires destroying the planet. /s

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                Run a moderate man and win every goddamn time, like we usually do?

                Hell, we even managed that one with a black dude…whose named sounded like our mortal enemy…twice. Just had to be somewhat in the middle so as to not scare what’s left of the Boomers and X-wits.

                My dude, the Republicans haven’t won an election without cheating since Eisenhower. Literally, not a single one.

                You want to run a far left candidate into that propaganda-bubble buzzsaw, have at it. You’ll lose 40 states, both houses of Congress, and what’s left of our civil liberties, but at least you’ll get to feel smug for 6 months.

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                  You’ll lose 40 states, both houses of Congress, and what’s left of our civil liberties, but at least you’ll get to feel smug for 6 months.

                  How do you not see this for the projection that it is?

                  You’re tacitly acknowledging leftists aren’t in charge. People who think like you, liberals, are. You’re responsible for the outcomes and gestures look at who you’re losing to.

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                    next time just admit you didn’t fucking read what I wrote and save us all the trouble.

                    I literally, fucking literally, explicitly made one point: NOMINATE A MODERATE MAN AND WE WIN.

                    Then you go on citing losing to Trump, who beat two fucking women, one of whom is wrongly tagged as a liberal.

                    LEARN TO READ BEFORE YOU COMMENT AGAIN.

                    EDIT and yes I know what the fuck I am talking about. I have worked for both political parties in my lifetime and gotten people from both sides elected. All in the middle.

                    You want a left-wing government? Shift the overton window one election at a time, like the goddamn Republicans did over 50 years. Trying to get that all in one election when it took them 50 years is just unserious, sophomoric logic.

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                Have Marxist lenninists ever come to power through elections?

                France? That once province in India? Genuine genuine question.

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        “Ah, finally free from the tyranny of capitalism!” – the tankie says, barely audible over the sounds of a random minority group being mulched in the background

        Uhhuh. Capitalism is evil. Wait… Why’s it evil again? Right; because of the suffering and harm it causes, and siphons the power from many into the hands of a few. And the authoritarian “left” is better because… Trains. Or something. But, come to thinks of it… You know, I heard Germany had a pretty decent rail system too. So perhaps that isn’t the bar by which we should measure success as a society.

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        The authoritarians don’t do that, we do. You think Stalin was out there laying track?

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              It’s the shit rolls down principle. The plant manager may have tuned the machine for say panes of glass to be 1mm thinner to stretch out supply and meet demand. This made it more fragile. While in transport the glass breaks, they blame the driver and send him to the gulag instead of the manager. Based on laws and expectations Stalin would have them summarily executed because he would blame the driver as well.

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                I have no idea how that concept relates to the present discussion. Sounds like really shit management yeah.

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                    You know who has a worse prison system than soviet Russia? America. More non violent prisoners than any country to ever exist, plus they actively practice slavery using their prisoners.