Democrats Leave White House With No Deal
time.com
The government is still set to shutdown, after Democrats Chuck Schumer and Hakeem Jeffries met with Trump and didn't reach a deal.

With just over 24 hours before the government is set to shutdown, Donald Trump and congressional leaders from both parties emerged from a high-stakes White House meeting on Monday with no agreement, setting the stage for large swaths of the federal government to close after midnight Wednesday.

The impasse came after closed-door talks between the four top congressional leaders and Trump in the Oval Office, where lawmakers appeared to trade blame but make little progress towards a deal. “There are still large differences between us,” Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer told reporters after the meeting, claiming that Republicans refused to engage on their core demands around health care and restoring previous funding cuts.

“Their bill has not one iota of Democratic input,” he added, taking aim at a House-passed seven-week stopgap funding bill that Senate Democrats rejected last week. “That is never how we’ve done this before.”

  • TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world
    142·
    20 hours ago

    I disagree. I would argue that their job is to represent their constituents. Sometimes that might involve attending legislative sessions. Other times that might involve intentionally not engaging with the opposition party, if that is in the best interests of the constituents.

    • Veedems@piefed.socialEnglish
      51·
      19 hours ago

      In this case, not engaging would mean intentionally choosing to shut down a government that has services that directly impact those constituents. Meeting with them is the bare minimum of their job.

      I can’t imagine Trump had any good faith negotiations so it’s a fool’s effort, but it’s their job to try, nonetheless.

      • TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world
        12·
        19 hours ago

        intentionally choosing to shut down a government that has services that directly impact those constituents.

        They should be shutting down the government. Not doing so is a derelection of their duty to their constituents and the constitution. Shutting down the government prevents DJT from doing more damage. Its a way the can actually stop/ stem the bleeding while being in the minority, and it would also show them having some spine.

        Going into any kind of negotiations with Trump is idiotic. Its not their job to keep giving Trump everything he needs to destroy the country.

    • Canaconda@lemmy.ca
      24·
      20 hours ago

      Well now you just sound impossible to please and completely ignorant of your own civic system.

      Sorry.

      • TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world
        61·
        19 hours ago

        I’m neither. I want the opposition party to be an opposition party when its important to do so, like it is now.

        That means not trying to find common ground with fascists.

        • Canaconda@lemmy.ca
          21·
          19 hours ago

          That’s what they’re doing. I’ll be the first to gripe the DNC as a whole but the way you’re mischaracterizing things is not helpful.

          As per the article:

          Democrats have continued to assert that their votes—which are needed to clear the Senate’s 60-vote threshold—are contingent on the bill including key health care provisions, particularly a permanent extension of enhanced Affordable Care Act (ACA) tax credits that have helped millions of middle-class families afford coverage. Without action, those subsidies will expire at year’s end, raising premiums just as Americans begin signing up for 2026 plans in November.

          Democrats also want to reverse $1 trillion in cuts to Medicaid that Republicans enacted unilaterally this summer, eliminate new work requirements for that program, block the White House from clawing back funds previously approved by Congress, and restore funding for medical research. But they have focused their demands on the ACA subsidies.

          • TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world
            2·
            19 hours ago

            Its not a mischaracterization to say I don’t agree with what the Democrats are doing. They shouldn’t be negotiating to keep the government open. Period. They can stop things from happening by shutting the thing down and preventing the real day to day damage. Don’t open it back till after the midterms, and sure as shit don’t do anything that Republicans will spin to help themselves.

            I’ve been through two shut downs/ near shutdowns as a freddie. Its fine. Shut it down.