Shortly before he launched his terror attack, the killer disseminated a manifesto to media. The essay is borderline unreadable: A hodgepodge of discordant economic and social politics, strung together by an intense hatred of women.
Sigh. Sounds like a worrying number of lemmy users.
The solution to this loneliness epidemic and all the downstream dangers that flow from it, is painfully simple: We need to break this internet addiction and get disaffected young men into physical, shared spaces again. The difficult part, the thing we haven’t yet figured out, is how we do that.
Unfortunately third spaces do not coexist well with any modern society, especially capitalism, and are quick becoming extinct. Especially post covid, making friends for anyone is extremely difficult - In a point against the incel philosophy, I’m a cute goth girl with big tits and I struggle to meet any new friends. It’s just shockingly isolating to participate in society these days.
The point about third spaces feels very apt. The absence of these in the modern world has to be connected to this social isolation epidemic we all seem to be experiencing. They are the exact opposite of social media, imagine if we redirected our resources?
Its really tough if you’re an attractive girl and can’t get any friends. I am a guy but I haven’t dated in more than a decade. Also I am a huge voluntary loner. Not an incel or a freak, but it would still feel strange for me if and when I go out on a date, and while I am not a virgin (far from it) if I get it on with another girl after all this time I might as well be.
I’ll admit it’s not hard for me to get a date since, well, I’m the product dating apps are selling. But it’s genuinely hard to meet like… friend friends. Lots of guys who wanna bang and thats fine, but none that I’d wanna play D&D or HD2 with. And no women, even on the “meet platonic friends” apps they just serve men. Honestly, its getting pretty disgusting how they commodify their userbase in a way that reinforces the exact kind of social isolation that fuels the problems with society that spawns incel culture, all to extract “premium memberships” with the promise of oneday going on dates with women who are never even given an opportunity to know they exist.
… I’m ranting but I genuinely just hate this shit.
That’s fine. For me I would want to meet girls for a relationship. I really am not looking for quickies and the times when I said I was I was probably lying to myself in times past.
But one thing for me is I refuse to use dating apps or online dating. I did have bad experiences with them ever since I first used them many years ago. I am also someone who is described as terminally online spend most of my time in front of a computer. I am sick of it, I am sick of ‘long distance’ and ‘remote’ relationships. I want to meet people face-to-face. It is possible, always hard I know, but I really would rather meet someone directly than indirectly.
Edit: And it sucks that you can’t even meet platonic female friends online. That is some bullshit right there.
Everything? From calling out Lemmy users to get a reaction, to claiming attractiveness to get even more engagement… Sadly, this thread declined in popularity too quickly for it to be effective.
This thread played out like one of those meetings about women’s issues where they only have male speakers.
I’ll try to add a little to the conversation, though. The article talks about how the online spaces were all deep dark corners of the internet. At least part of that is because places like reddit got rid of those subreddits.
Sigh. Sounds like a worrying number of lemmy users.
Unfortunately third spaces do not coexist well with any modern society, especially capitalism, and are quick becoming extinct. Especially post covid, making friends for anyone is extremely difficult - In a point against the incel philosophy, I’m a cute goth girl with big tits and I struggle to meet any new friends. It’s just shockingly isolating to participate in society these days.
Civilian Conservation Corps. FDR era plan to hire young men and build infrastructure.
Invest money in rebuilding powerlines, roads, and bridges. Give people well paying blue collar jobs. Teach teamwork and mutual responsibility
The point about third spaces feels very apt. The absence of these in the modern world has to be connected to this social isolation epidemic we all seem to be experiencing. They are the exact opposite of social media, imagine if we redirected our resources?
God, I wish. At this point I’d settle for them not killing off libraries, but…
This timeline: best we can do it convert libraries and parks into data centers :'(
Its really tough if you’re an attractive girl and can’t get any friends. I am a guy but I haven’t dated in more than a decade. Also I am a huge voluntary loner. Not an incel or a freak, but it would still feel strange for me if and when I go out on a date, and while I am not a virgin (far from it) if I get it on with another girl after all this time I might as well be.
I’ll admit it’s not hard for me to get a date since, well, I’m the product dating apps are selling. But it’s genuinely hard to meet like… friend friends. Lots of guys who wanna bang and thats fine, but none that I’d wanna play D&D or HD2 with. And no women, even on the “meet platonic friends” apps they just serve men. Honestly, its getting pretty disgusting how they commodify their userbase in a way that reinforces the exact kind of social isolation that fuels the problems with society that spawns incel culture, all to extract “premium memberships” with the promise of oneday going on dates with women who are never even given an opportunity to know they exist.
… I’m ranting but I genuinely just hate this shit.
That’s fine. For me I would want to meet girls for a relationship. I really am not looking for quickies and the times when I said I was I was probably lying to myself in times past.
But one thing for me is I refuse to use dating apps or online dating. I did have bad experiences with them ever since I first used them many years ago. I am also someone who is described as terminally online spend most of my time in front of a computer. I am sick of it, I am sick of ‘long distance’ and ‘remote’ relationships. I want to meet people face-to-face. It is possible, always hard I know, but I really would rather meet someone directly than indirectly.
Edit: And it sucks that you can’t even meet platonic female friends online. That is some bullshit right there.
I’m a hermit who lives in an off grid rural property behind a couple locked gates but I still manage to meet a half dozen new people every week.
Yeah, you know, that actually tracks…
I’ve never actually tracked a new person I’ve met but that might be fun now that you mention it.
Sharks don’t seem to mind the radio tags, and they’re way more ill-tempered than a UPS guy. I’m sure it’ll be fine.
This is brilliant bait, love it
… What about it is bait?
Everything? From calling out Lemmy users to get a reaction, to claiming attractiveness to get even more engagement… Sadly, this thread declined in popularity too quickly for it to be effective.
This thread played out like one of those meetings about women’s issues where they only have male speakers.
I’ll try to add a little to the conversation, though. The article talks about how the online spaces were all deep dark corners of the internet. At least part of that is because places like reddit got rid of those subreddits.
But… there was plenty of very nice discussion about the subject?