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Apparently I live in the wrong Southern Europe
It’s okay, I live in Ohio and we work like this, but instead of asking what you do we ask which high school you went to, and what you think about <sports team>
Life in Velen vs. life in Toussaint.
Southern Europe just means Spain and Portugal to me. Maybe Greece and Sicily too.
American here - we’re conditioned from birth to think not working as hard as possible to make money for somebody else is lazy.
I lived in Southern Europe for 2 years back in 2002 and it was without a doubt the best time of my life.
for 2 years back in 2002
During those two years in 2002, how many times did you travel backwards in time to avoid 2003?
Americans, 20+ years ago I joined the Peace Corps. Extended, spent 3 years in a wild, amazing place in West Africa. Met my spouse, loved the experience. Strongly recommend. Over the last 20+ years, been out of the States for 10+. It’s a springboard.
Right now, recruitment is down. A lot. The bar is citizenship, be 20-something (technically 18, but you need some something experience and not really fresh from high school), and don’t have a totally jacked up body. You won’t be doing shit for sleepy T, like how I didn’t do shit for W.
You want Southern Europe? SE Europe is awesome. Albania, Kosovo, MKD, all options. Also Moldova, if you like wine. So are Armenia and Georgia, which are also amazing.
The option is there and real. Free to apply.
That gets you out of the US temporarily but that won’t get you permanent status
don’t have a totally jacked up body
Good thing fascists are always so nice to disabled people /s
Two-stick morality: one stick has a carrot on it, the other is just a stick.
It’s really just laughing at us at this point.
There is very little chance of most of us escaping to Europe. Every program that I’ve looked at for moving over there has been entirely closed within a day or two due to the amount of applications being sent in.
Can… can I move to southern Europe?
Assuming you’re a privileged white person with an employer who is willing to fill out paperwork and vouch for you with the government before they’ve even hired you and aren’t trying to stay permanently
Quick reminder that if you have german ancestors that had to flee the nazis, you can claim their citizenship back. Once you got the german passport the whole EU allows you to be a resident.
My stupid ancestors moved here like 6 generations ago. 😞
You can still apply for immigration. If you’re lgbtq maybe even asylum at this point idk
Spain has massively increased it’s population. Even though the birthrate is below replacement level. All of that is immigration.
You can move to basically anywhere. Most countries offer legal immigration paths. Some are of course harder than others, but it’s possible.
Especially if you are highly skilled. Such as a medical doctor.
Countries love already educated professionals, since they basically get all the benefit of a fully working adult without the downside of paying for its childcare or education.
And even if low educated, most first world countries want low educated foreigners that can do the “dirty” physical work that the locals don’t want to do, such as construction.
as a fellow american stuck here until i hit the lotto - best we can do is an occasional debt filled trip to the hospital.
There are places in America that are like this, you have to be able to afford it though.
Or be so poor and in such a backwater place that time has no meaning.
Yes, the naivety of OOP not realizing that southern Europe is some of the most expensive real estate in the world and that the Americans moving there are moving with hoarded wealth is hilarious to me. “Let them eat cake” energy
Yeah, give Mexico City a try. It’s very much the same, only not so financially out of reach. You can get an okay house there for like $70,000 so you can buy a $2.5 million mansion. It’s up to you and what kind of money you have.
I’m just coming back off of three weeks there and holy crap what a difference between America and Mexico.
Every street corner has foot traffic. There are shops every two city blocks for a 20 mile radius. There’s a variety and art and culture, and everyone’s just taking it easy. No one’s in a big rush, even when their traffic is absolutely insane, it’s insanity that’s dealt with with a logical mind.
Culturally, America is 100 years behind Mexico City.
Mexico City has horrible air quality, is running out of water, and is literally sinking because of over-consumption tho? Not exactly where I’d want to make any long-term plans.
Last time I checked there were actually non-rich people in southern Europe.
People don’t seem to realize that rich people actually need non-rich people living near them, and they’re not all live-in servants.
There’s like 6 of them
Most of Southern Europe is significantly poorer than most of Northern Europe…
Are you sure it’s hoarded and they didn’t just spent it on a home in Southern Europe?
Where
Seattle. It’s changed a lot, but it used to be affordable and that it was taboo to even ask where you worked. Reps would blow you off constantly to go skiing or hiking. Now, the greeds have taken completely over, but the lifestyle remains.
Ah, so were like this
No, it’s still mostly like this, you just have to be rich to live in the city.
You’re mentioning one city, talking about needing money to live there. The entire continent of Europe is like the op’s post. Not just southern Europe and not just cities. And you don’t need to be rich to live there.
Madison, Wisconsin. Most of the Great Lakes area (sans Chicago) in my experience. It’s a beautiful region. Lots of cultural holdover from the Scandi immigrants that first populated it
If people would stop voting for conservatives we could all have better lives.
i am one generation too late to get dual citizenship in finland via bloodline, and i will never get over that. i hate it here
You are not too late, you can still get finnish citizenship the same way as every other immigrant: you have to live there for 8 years, and learn the beautiful agglutinative language!
Yay, new word for me!
i would loooove to learn the language but it is daunting. i know one phrase i learned from my granpa, i know how to ask what time it is. lol
If you’ve heard the language spoken to you as a child, you might be surprised by your ability to learn it.
Perkele
Torille
Then there are people like me whose ancestors came here before the Civil War. My last name comes from a German immigrant who came here during the German 1848 revolution.
Just got back from southern France. Yeah this lifestyle here is bullshit.
School closed early due to heat today. So I dropped a line in work slack, picked up my kid and went swimming in a great open air pool for 4.50. Europe is wonderful place to live.
And it’s not even southern.
Wait… When was there euphoria.
