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      21 hours ago

      Be careful with insisting on “all or nothing”, you often end up with “nothing.” Like what happened in the 2024 election.

      Also, I am not a racist. If you read my other comments you’ll find that I’m in favor of the intent of DEI programs, they’ve just been implemented badly in many cases. But it’s just like the virtue-signalling that Trump himself demands of his followers, the moment I said something that seemed slightly out of step I get ejected into the “enemy” camp. No compromise, no effort to understand nuance.

      Well, bold strategy, good luck with your future elections I guess.

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            20 hours ago

            @agamemnonymous

            The biggest loss would be aligning with racists.

            I’m wondering if some people actually understand what being on the progressive left even means.

            Partnering with racists makes you a racist, win or lose.

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              20 hours ago

              No, the biggest loss would be fascists staying in power and eliminating racism by eliminating all but one race. Material conditions are much, much more important than ideals.

              Is the life of every minority a worthy cost for standing by your principles? If, I hypothetically, you knew for a fact that losing would mean total ethnic cleansing, would you still refuse to accept the support of racists to elect someone you knew for a fact wouldn’t do ethnic cleansing?

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                19 hours ago

                @agamemnonymous

                Yes, we’ve all seen the Trolley Problem. It’s bullshit.

                Just like this entire question. People who hate DEI aren’t trying to join the left. No one on the left has to reject racists because racists hate us too.

                This whole thread is basically trying to split the left. But the funniest part is pretending the fascists and the racists aren’t the same people.

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                  19 hours ago

                  Yes, we’ve all seen the Trolley Problem. It’s bullshit.

                  That’s not an answer. Is it worth it or not?

                  This whole thread is basically trying to split the left.

                  That’s what you got from this? It’s overwhelmingly people rightfully pointing out that these line-in-the-sand ideals are what’s splitting the left.

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                    19 hours ago

                    @agamemnonymous

                    Sorry, but I’m not interested in hypothetical game theory.

                    I’m not going to apologize for drawing a line in the sand that excludes racists. It’s a line that must be drawn.

                    If the left doesn’t oppose racism, it stands for nothing.