• Skullgrid@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    I swear to fucking god that it’s not even that; it’s people that care for others, and people that are willfully ignorant that it’s actually pragmatically cheaper and more efficient to care for others than to treat them like shit.

    Pandemic as an example : the more you stay indoors and try to stop the spread of the virus, the faster the pandemic ends and the faster YOU can get back to normal. FORGET that it also stops people dying and protects the vulnerable, it’s in YOUR SELFISH INTEREST.

    Or having a basic system of social welfare : giving bread to a poor person costs the price of the bread. Having to imprison them, pay for cops, repair of broken things, investigations etc costs more fucking money. even if you hate people and want them to die, it’s fucking CHEAPER FOR YOU.

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    7 months ago

    I don’t care about others, therefore I don’t care who they love, what they do with their bodies, how and where they live their life as long as it doesn’t impact my choices and my life.

    Would I be in that second camp then?

    • ThisIsMyOldAccount@lemmy.world
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      7 months ago

      Would you stand up and speak up on someones behalf if injustice was done to them and they couldn’t defend themselves?

      I know it’s a bit harsh and just a different interpretation but one could easily read your stance as “at least i don’t actively hurt others, so dont shame me for not caring about them as long as it doesn’t affect me”

      Again a bit harsh i know but maybe worth thinking about 乁⁠(⁠ ⁠•⁠_⁠•⁠ ⁠)⁠ㄏ

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        7 months ago

        Would you stand up and speak up on someones behalf if injustice was done to them and they couldn’t defend themselves?

        In front of me? Yes, but i wouldn’t go volunteering saving oppressed people.

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          7 months ago

          Sounds rational to me. I’ve also observed many who purport to “care so much”, but it’s really a veil to dodge accountability or otherwise manipulate various social levers. I steer clear of those that are quick to play social games, including shame, to gain status or get their way.

          I’ll take rational, well-reasoned, and balanced empathy over manic, performative forms of “care” any day of the week. i.e.: It’s nowhere near a simple binary, those that care and those that don’t. Deceitful opportunists infect all demographics.