If the other states do nothing, then CA does nothing.
States have been gerrymandering themselves since the 17th century. Texas already pulled this out-of-cycle redistricting shit as recently as 2003, ffs. Its already happened. All the CA Dems are managing in this is to make clear that they’re bluffing.
One of those things triggers after a bunch of states fight long hard battles to update their constitutions. The other one triggers as soon as a single opponent gerrymanders.
It’s also worth noting that CA has only been free of gerrymanders for a little over a decade. The’ve gerrymandered before and they can do it again.
I am just super not excited with the new rhetoric you guys are already having about Gavin Newsom being awesome. Newsom has been pretty not awesome for a long time and I fear liberals are going to want to back him in the next election because of this crap.
To be clear, I think he’s in the right on this issue.
I’m very lukewarm on Newsom, and sincerely hope he’s never a Democrat candidate for president. That said, griping about his shortcomings when he’s on the cusp of doing the right thing is counterproductive.
It’s a bad thing because they’re doing it to pander to conservatives, not challenge their beliefs. Folks like Sanders, AOC and Mandami are welcome to go on conservative talk shows, but neolibs need to fuck off.
This whole 'reach across the aisle"schtick that the Democrats have been doing for the past 30 years clearly isn’t working, and has only dragged the country further and further to the right. He doesn’t go out and challenge their views, he tells them why they are gonna love what he has planned for the future.
Newsom “called for” a ballot item to answer whether the state legislature should begin to form a committee to consider redrawing districts by… 202(?) Some legislators think they have enough votes to put the item on the ballot. No official word on what that ballot item to tell the legislature to begin the process will look like, of course. And there’s ample opportunity for Republicans to run a bunch of negative ads, for the courts to interfere, and for the national legislature to intercede.
So they’ve telegraphed a punch two years in advance, while their opposition has tanks camped out in LA for over a month.
Blue States simply won’t do this, because they are not part of a coherent national political project.
They’ll bluff and then hope Republicans fold.
I bet CA goes through.
They’re proposing some conditional logic in their legislation. If others do ____, then CA does ____.
If the other states do nothing, then CA does nothing.
Ah, yes. They’re modeling it after the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact, another famously effective piece of collaborative interstate legislation.
States have been gerrymandering themselves since the 17th century. Texas already pulled this out-of-cycle redistricting shit as recently as 2003, ffs. Its already happened. All the CA Dems are managing in this is to make clear that they’re bluffing.
One of those things triggers after a bunch of states fight long hard battles to update their constitutions. The other one triggers as soon as a single opponent gerrymanders.
It’s also worth noting that CA has only been free of gerrymanders for a little over a decade. The’ve gerrymandered before and they can do it again.
I’m hoping that, with the dismal polling for Democrats, the ones who want a future in politics, like Newsom, are recognizing they need to be tougher.
Maybe I’ll kick the Hopium habit if/when we’re no longer conspicuously moving toward a dictatorship.
I am just super not excited with the new rhetoric you guys are already having about Gavin Newsom being awesome. Newsom has been pretty not awesome for a long time and I fear liberals are going to want to back him in the next election because of this crap.
To be clear, I think he’s in the right on this issue.
I’m very lukewarm on Newsom, and sincerely hope he’s never a Democrat candidate for president. That said, griping about his shortcomings when he’s on the cusp of doing the right thing is counterproductive.
Toward? Um…
Don’t know how to tell you this, but the guy making the rounds on conservative podcasts probably isn’t who you want leading the Democrats
I didn’t say I want him to lead the democrats, I said I want him to gerrymander California.
Why is that a bad thing? Should Democrats stay in their echo chamber and Republicans stay in theirs?
It’s a bad thing because they’re doing it to pander to conservatives, not challenge their beliefs. Folks like Sanders, AOC and Mandami are welcome to go on conservative talk shows, but neolibs need to fuck off.
This whole 'reach across the aisle"schtick that the Democrats have been doing for the past 30 years clearly isn’t working, and has only dragged the country further and further to the right. He doesn’t go out and challenge their views, he tells them why they are gonna love what he has planned for the future.
They’re recognizing they need to cuddle up to TPUSA and the AIPAC lobby. Hence Newsom’s choice of podcast guests.
CA is moving ahead. It will be on a special election ballot in November.
Newsom “called for” a ballot item to answer whether the state legislature should begin to form a committee to consider redrawing districts by… 202(?) Some legislators think they have enough votes to put the item on the ballot. No official word on what that ballot item to tell the legislature to begin the process will look like, of course. And there’s ample opportunity for Republicans to run a bunch of negative ads, for the courts to interfere, and for the national legislature to intercede.
So they’ve telegraphed a punch two years in advance, while their opposition has tanks camped out in LA for over a month.
But that’s how this stuff starts. Someone gets the ball rolling, and that’s what happened yesterday.
The wise man plants a tree knowing he may never rest under its shade.
The best time for California to redistrict itself was 2006. The second best time is now, not ten years from now.