• Corn@lemmy.ml
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    2 days ago

    You know what causes progressives to not vote? Telling them to fuck off and supporting a genocide.

    There is no equivalent for liberals; liberals aren’t going to not vote because ICE isn’t hauling off enough of their neighbors or they don’t have to fill out enough forms and pay enough money to prove they deserve healthcare or that trans people don’t need to jump through enough hoops to get their medications.

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      This just reads like crybaby astroturf bullshit. Those issues are important to liberals too. Liberal by definition means you are PRO LIBERTY. Name one thing in that list that doesn’t align with being pro liberty. Go on I’ll wait

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        Here’s a book going through all the major liberal philosophers and how they handled the contradictions of liberalism: https://infoport.co/wp-content/uploads/Domenico-Losurdo-Gregory-Elliott-Liberalism_-A-Counter-History-Verso-2011.pdf

        In practice, when they come into conflict, the freedom for bourgeoisie to exploit the working class outweighs all others. This takes different meanings in different contexts. There’s a few parts that might take a few rereads to get what they’re actually saying, such as English colonists arguing that the crown is treating them like slaves, by restricting their freedom to tyrannize the Indians and slaves, without a hint of irony.