• LemmeAtEm@lemmy.ml
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    1 day ago

    You can be anticapitalist and liberal at the same time

    No, that doesn’t even “check out” on the NATOpedia article. Even that article is explicit that liberalism is fundamentally a pro-capitalist ideology with private property as a core aspect. But it is fun watching you did a hole for yourself, step into it, then declare victory.

    And how is the OP meme referencing anything “tankies” say, other than that the person speaking in the OP image is someone you would call a “tankie”? See that little hammer and sickle next to her name? You really are deeply confused, aren’t you.

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      19 hours ago

      It actually specifies property in general. Now, I know tankies like to see that and append “private” in front, but Liberalism has been around for hundreds of years longer than marxism, and prior to liberalism, property was handed out by the king, and owning property meant you were a noble.

      The idea that non-nobility can own anything, including personal property, is a liberal idea.

      • TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today
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        I know tankies like to see that and append “private” in front

        Private property is meant to include personal ownership of things other than land.

        prior to liberalism, property was handed out by the king, and owning property meant you were a noble.

        You’re talking about land… In most systems of feudalism the king granted land to the landed gentry who would then rent out that land for income.

        Individuals still owned personal property like homes, businesses, and horses. They just didn’t own the land that property occupied.

        The idea that non-nobility can own anything, including personal property, is a liberal idea.

        That’s just wildly inaccurate… People have been owning different types of property since before recorded history. The only places this isn’t the cultural norm for humans in general is a select sect of small communal societies who share everything.

        There are people who will claim that the property isn’t truly owned because it’s on someone else’s land. But that would be like saying you don’t truly own your home if you have to pay property taxes.

      • RiverRock@lemmy.ml
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        7 hours ago

        personal property is a liberal idea

        Hahaha holy shit man I can’t, you heard it here first folks, owning things was invented in the 1600s, nobody had stuff before that and no society had laws or ideas about it.