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    I’m not even American… I’m tired…

    Elon Musk rigged the election to let Trump win. Your democrats hate you.

    You are all a slave to Israel.

    Please… please… Please rise up and stomp out your corrupt politicians on the right and the (Democrats) slightly left right.

    Bernie Sanders, Alexandria Oscaio+Cortez and Mamdani are your freedom… Please… Australia is getting too right wing… Please show the world that socialism is the future.

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      Yeah… I’m in Australia too…

      I don’t think people realise how fucked we’ll be if Pauline wins…

      She literally didn’t even finish high school (or any type of post high school training), and has even less experience than trump. Even trump went to business school.

      It’s like literally picking the (likely) dumbest, least experienced person in the room to manage millions of people who are all likely better candidates… And, she’s just as narcissistic as him

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          She was a useless self-interested asshole long before that.

          Gina likes her, because like Trump, she’s easy to bribe, and they both know they can help each other. They can also trust each other (like Trump and Epstein knew they could)

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      The all encompassing descriptor you’re looking for is conservatives. All republicans are conservatives and all the AIPAC dems and dissenting dems are conservative.

      Progressive dems are americas only hope of not being a shitstain of a country.

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        All republicans call themselves conservative but not all republicans are conservative. Republicans are their own kind of evil.

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          Conservatism in the USA is built on the idea of consolidating power and respecting hierarchy. They want a king or a dictator, objectively evil.

          If you are trying to go for literal terminology. Fiscal conservatism would be progressive in practice. It is cheaper to provide universal healthcare than use 3rd parties. It is cheaper to have a public utility manage power, telecom, trains, and roads than to allow private industry to manage those. It is cheaper to simply not have a military than to have one. It is cheaper to bar pedophiles from government than suffer the effects of their blackmail.

          I understand being technically correct but it is more important to use terminology the people you are trying to help understand. In summary, if every conservative politician in the USA disappeared today the USA would immediately be in a better position.

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      I’m tired of hearing non-Americans tell us who we are, what we’re about, that we’re all slaves to Israel. It’s a fucking joke. America is the most diverse country on Earth with over 350 million people. Pull your head out of your ass. Your tiny homogenous country will never understand what America is.

      That being said fuck the billionaires and their cock sucking politicians and lobbyists. American politicians are the most loyal in the world. The problem is that their constituents are the billionaires and megacorps and not the American people.

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        America is the most diverse country on Earth with over 350 million people.

        Please read some Indian history 😭

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          I’m actually familiar with a lot of Indian history. I stand behind my statement, your tiny homogenous country will never understand what America is.

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        I guess just as tired as we are of hearing excuses as to why nothing can be done about the current situation there.

        I think we know more than you think, since you never shut up about it. Excuses or otherwise.

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          Did I make any excuses about that? I’m also tired of hearing that, and many Americans are. You seem kind of clueless.

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            Did I…

            Enough of you do, and furthermore you keep speaking down to us, about the size of our nation or whatever to use your example above.

            I’m fucking tired of that. We have been such close allies to you arseholes, yet you speak to us like shit when called on your shit. Unlike Canadians whose arse you kiss because you know their threat is real.

            If I had my way we’d tear up the ANZUS pact and AUKUS because your government and your people, who continue to elect such horrible people, can’t be trusted.

            You seem kind of clueless

            Another one you lot go on with. Like I said we know more than you think we know. What we know is that you’re full of excuses you don’t offer other nations.

            If Americans are so tired of it, do something about it. Don’t find excuses either, because Republucan voters prove them wrong. You prove your excuses wrong. Excuses you don’t offer others yet expect us to not just consider but completely respect.

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              I’m not speaking down to you, you just genuinely seem clueless. Why don’t you scroll up and see the context of the discussion. People baselessly shitting on 350 million Americans. Have any of you non-Americans actually looked at Trump’s approval ratings? The anti-American rhetoric is laughable and clueless.

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                Im not speaking down to you

                You did to another Australian and I have their back.

                You call me clueless? You understand nothing about what a collective is and it is why I had a fucking shot at you. Anti American rhetoric? Fuck off. I paid an extra 70c a litre on fuel from three months ago today because you fuckwits can’t stop trying to bully the ME to play the stock market.

                Approval ratings? You put the cunt in twice and you’d do it again too. You meaning a fucking collective. Since it has to be explained to you.

                Fuck the context, I’m replying to you this way because you shat on my country man and my country and I’m tired of it. There’s always context for you cunts isn’t there? Always context. Excuses. Sorry, reasons.

                Always the same shit from you lot. Do something about it.

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        Haha fair enough. My country is by far from perfect and definitely got a lot of us with our heads up our arses.

        Good luck to you mate

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          Thank you, brother. We’re all in this together now. Hoping the best for you guys and doing the best I can here. 🙏

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      Rioting does not work in America because our cops have been armed with military grade weapons and are completely empowered to respond with violence at will. Peaceful resistance is what we’ve been doing and it is working. It’s just very very slow and impatient people are gonna be disappointed. Trump and his regime WANT rioting because it gives them the excuse. When your enemy wants you to react a certain way, you don’t give them that. So no, we won’t be rioting. General strike is a great idea and may be possible but peaceful resistance is our way and it’s 100% working. MAGA went from control of every part of our govt to now eating itself. We’re winning. No one said it would be easy or fast.

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        the police in america are not more armed then the people. peacefull resistance is * checks news * yea it is not working.

        slow would imply forward progress, not full on degradation the likes of which has never been seen before.

        any talk of kowtowing to tyranny because any actual action would justify the actual harm they are already committing is bullshit. if they needed justification, they would manufacture it. they did it already, and we are past the point they even try to justify anything

        past resistance has been white washed to promote the peaceful and easily controlled actions, and demonized the ‘radical’ movements when the only reason the peaceful actions got any traction was the presented alternative.

        the government eating itself was not a victory of the peaceful resistance! the same way claiming a boycott killed a company because it was bought out by a venture capitalist. the disassembling and destruction of the business for profit was the whole point!!!

        we are not winning we are not moving in the correct direction and in the mean time people are dieing all over the world! fuck all the way off.

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          Cops have APCs, sonic pressure weapons mounted on said APCs, mine resistant vehicles, automatic weapons, helicopters bombs that they have dropped from helicopters on the past, rocket launchers, machine guns, thermal imaging, thermal scopes, night vision, drones with thermal vision, etc…

          And they get training from both the IDF and US Special Forces (for some fucking reason). Sadly, these aren’t the goon police with no training like they were in the 1900s worker uprisings. The balance of power has shifted dramatically. US resistance movements would essentially have to move into drone warfare tactics in order to not get slaughtered if actual conflict broke out. It isn’t Blair Ridge anymore.

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            and yet they do not have the capability to win a fight against the populous. not even the military.

            what’s the militaries track record for winning a war against an insurgency? it’s it once in 100 years? with a protected military industrial complex separated by an ocean. with the worlds most advanced weapons. with unlimited arms budget. with the best training, with the best logistics, there was no advantage the us military didn’t have, and yet we have lost every war against an insurgency except one.

            and you argue for capitulation to tyranny with out even trying, embarrassing.

            no one ever said it would be fun, or convenient. but i would appreciate you to not stand in the way when there is talk of resistance.

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              Actually peaceful resistance is the ONLY method that has a successful track record. What ends up happening is violence gives fascists the excuse to crack down and the middle-road fence-sitters see videos of violent protests and side with fascism.

              Did you know that MLK actually operated schools for his operatives where they would burn them with cigarettes so they could train themselves not to react when they did their sit-ins?

              That is true self-discipline and that’s why their movement eventually won out. It took forever and lots of people sacrificed their bodies and lives and time but it changed the mindstate of the country overall to where actual change was enacted.

              Trump was right on the verge of using the Insurrection Act, but one by one, every city he swarmed with ICE practiced non-violent reistance and eventually he had to pull them out with no dispatch of national guard. ICE walked away with their reputation stained forever because the protestors never gave them a video or soundbyte they could use against us.

              We’ve got full on networks of anti-ICE resistance now all over the country, we follow the law but we make life very difficult for ICE and do our best to alert communities when they show up. We’re doing our best. The midterms are almost here and Trump has a record low approval rating, its about to be a wipeout and its all thanks to American democratic resistance.