• ian@feddit.uk
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    5 hours ago

    “I went into the shop and said ‘do you sell pervert glasses? I wanna buy some pervert glasses’. So I bought a pair. And I was wearing ma pervies, and walking down the street. But they didn’t work! Everything looks the same. All the people… no different! Still dressed. I mean. What are they supposed to do? Bloody waste of money!”

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    I definitely see the possibility for abuse, but making a zero-tolerance assumption that these glasses are worn only by pervs seems as mindless as assuming a black guy walking down your street is obviously casing houses to rob, because why else would he be there? Or that a man eating his lunch on a park bench is definitely, unquestionably a pedophile looking for child victims, because what other reason would he have?

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        4 hours ago

        And the murder spiders, murder snakes, murder birds, murder fish and serial killers. I hate how we’ve been turned into the Bluey country, we have so much more diversity!

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          If it makes you feel better, we sold Bluey to the poms, and now they are making bank from it 😀.

          It’s the Australian way.

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            It does not

            That hurts as much as seeing Holden go under so Gina could make a few billion extra

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    Does the author assume that the reader doesn’t know what Australia is? “Australia! You know; the place with kangaroos, shrimps on barbies, and toilets that flush the other way around!”

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    Australia saw smart glasses and said: what if Google Glass, but with better cameras and worse boundaries? A workplace ban is understandable where confidential data is everywhere. But calling it world leading feels premature: the real challenge is writing privacy rules that survive the next pair of glasses too, not just banning today’s model.

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      the real challenge is writing privacy rules that survive the next pair of glasses too, not just banning today’s model

      This phrasing is one you seem to use quite a lot, and your website has some pretty prominent use of AI art. Are you using AI in your posts & comments?

      Anyway, for me the real challenge is coming up with a way to protect privacy vis a vis these glasses without restricting genuine public-interest video recording (e.g. recording police or someone threatening you) and protecting photographers’ right to create their art. I’ll just copy/paste a comment I made a few days ago in a similar thread:

      As a photographer I’m a firm believer in the right to take photos and videos in public, for both artistic and documentary purposes. There is no expectation of privacy when in a public place and so objections to all forms of video recording in public places feel like dramatic overreach. The nebulous idea of a general “right to privacy” when in a public space should not override the right of artists to create art, or of anyone to document events/behaviours taking place in public.

      But covertly recording using glasses that have no indicator or an inadequate indicator* in private spaces like changing rooms, or publishing the recordings of a conversation that the other party did not know was being recorded, feels like an overreach in the other direction. Banning devices that covertly record video from spaces where it’s deemed inappropriate feels like a pretty good balance.

      * From what I’ve heard, these Facebook glasses have an indicator that is quite easy to remove aftermarket, and even if you don’t remove it, in brightly lit areas it’s pretty hard to tell it’s on anyway.

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        4 hours ago

        As a photographer I’m a firm believer in the right to take photos and videos in public, for both artistic and documentary purposes.

        sure, no problem with that, just be careful.

        There is no expectation of privacy when in a public place

        that’s blatantly false. However much you deny it, there is an expectation of privacy in public. we are not going out to have a chance to be acting on your photos and videos. we are going out because we need to, to go to work, the shop or to the doctors.

        it would be right to say, there is no expectation of being invisible, or that nobody will see me do my things on the street. and of course if we do something silly, people will see that and judge us. but that is not what you said. there is an expectation of not having a permanent record of our own lives if we don’t want, and anything standing in the way of that needs to go.

        that being said, yes, you can take photos and videos in public. granted that there are no unconsenting people in the scene, or that they will not be recognizable in the resulting images. otherwise dont be surprised if you are being judged.
        recognizability does not only mean, whether do I know that person, or whether the face is visible. photographers are notorious for uploading their images to tech companies that have the capabilities and the practice to do their magic on photos to recognize people by their other attributes.

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          granted that there are no unconsenting people in the scene, or that they will not be recognizable in the resulting images

          Nope. That’s neither the law nor the ethical requirement. If it were, the entire genres of photojournalism and street photography would not exist. Things may change if it’s for commercial purposes such as an advertising campaign, or if it forms part of a pattern of stalking or harassment or similar, but the general baseline is exactly as I said: there is no expectation of privacy in public.

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          when that photography creeps into voyeurism there are definite laws. it’s ridiculous that they throw out ‘but in public you have no expectation -’ naw, how about they don’t take pics and vid of kids and people without their consent.

          there will always be creeps, and those creeps will always be willing to abuse their rights to infringe upon others. stop giving the creeps better hardware and telling us all to accept it.

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    1 day ago

    Aussie here, I don’t think that this is a bad move at all. The meta glasses are at a price point that makes them rarely seen in the wild, however Kmart (yes it still exists here, but different owners) has recently had a sale of $20 “recording glasses” that can easily have their recording LED turned off and with a few modifications you wouldn’t even know they had a camera.

    I can understand them doing this in government facilities, as some won’t even allow you to have your phone in certain spaces.

    I do think with tigher guardrails (detection of environments, like if a set of meta glasses enter a restroom or what looks like a restroom it should disable recording entirely.) it could be allowed but we really don’t need to encourage kids that secret recordings are ok.

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      How would you implement it? On a glass that the user controls (root), it would be impossible. Of course, I do not like bathroom recordings, but there’s no sane way to block them.

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        Of course, I do not like bathroom recordings, but there’s no sane way to block them.

        sure there is, ban them.

        it’d be insane to simply throw your hands up and say ‘well can’t do anything about it’. stop giving the creeps better creeping tools.

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    As a fan of Aussie dash cams im kinda sad. I can only imagine the videos we’d get with Aussies walking around with a dashcam on their face.

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        8 hours ago

        To deprive us of watching crazy situations. I thought it was to stop pervs.

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          To be clear: filming without permission is legal, broadcasting is not. The moral panic is not going to be easy to translate into law.

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    2 days ago

    I see TimTams mentioned and I gotta say how good they are. If you haven’t tried them, you need to. So good!

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      3 hours ago

      I want to try some Vegemite; don’t worry I have a large jar of Marmite in the fridge, I know what I want.

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      They’re overpriced though. I recommend the hilariously-badly-named Aldi alternatives, Just Divine. They’re like 90% as good as the name brand, at literally half the price.

      Don’t go the Woolies home brand ones though. Those are terrible.

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        100% agree the Woolies home brand ones are downright atrocious. Since I was diagnosed coeliac it’s been nice to see Arnott’s do a gluten free version but those are very pricey and probably only 80-90% as good as the originals. The rest of the Arnott’s GF range is pretty great though.

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        Tim tams go on sale at half price every few weeks at colesworth, you should never pay full price for them.

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        An American investment firm bought Arnott’s and the quality of their products dropped significantly. They also went from $2 a pack to $8 in like 5 years while a pack went from 12 biscuits to 7 in the same sized package, and the chocolate is shit now.

        Like everything, they used to be amazing, then rich Americans stepped in.

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    I know how we solve this; no wireless communication at all; the glasses are dial up 56k only. And not that fancy V.92; I’m talking 56k flex.