• velma@sh.itjust.works
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    11 hours ago

    Victimizing yourself in a conversation about a woman who was stalked, raped, and abused for years by her ex-boyfriend sure is something you can do.

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        11 hours ago

        Make sure to tell some little girls out there to not dress so provocatively lest they tempt someone into raping them.

        Same thing as telling someone that it’s their fault for being abused because they allowed their boyfriend to help set up their EV.

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          11 hours ago

          Anything but 5 seconds of introspection or thought, I see. But yes, keep going, keep twisting the narrative. Misandry at its finest. Did your ex-husband cheat on you or something? Was that a tipping point that made you hate all men? I have to ask because clearly, you’re willing to abandon all reason to hate. To me, it sounds like you need therapy pretty badly. But again, you would need to introspect for that, which is not really your strong suite.

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            11 hours ago

            It’s your insistence that telling victims how to change their behavior to avoid being abused is more important than placing blame for the abuse on the abuser that I am criticizing.

            You do not represent all men. It’s pretty presumptuous to push that I hate all men because I take issue with your argument that we should place the onus on victims for their abuse instead of their abusers.

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              10 hours ago

              Yep, you still keep claiming that I said things I never actually did. Like I also already said, calm down and read what I actually said. About misandry, your comment/post history and modlog say enough. This conversation just solidified that impression is all. Tends to happen when you straight up lie about what is going on in a conversation. Oh, wait, it was a “debate” for you, right? Well, good luck, your insane accusations are not worth anyone’s time.

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                10 hours ago

                A petty mod refusing to believe that men make up 90-95% of family annihilators doesn’t make me a misandrist.

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                  10 hours ago

                  Sure, maybe but everything else does and for me personally, this conversation does. But anyway, I realize I started to match your energy at some point, so sorry for that. It feels awful to have every word I say be twisted and for everything be turned into a “debate”, so at some point, I started reciprocating your style. Social media sucks and to be blunt, it’s because of people like you.

                  We could’ve just had an exploration of why we perceived the same sentence so differently, not just as different genders but also the way you seemed to process the comment as being towards the victim while I processed it as being towards the community here. Feels like something we could and should be thinking about in a medium like this. But anyway, I’ll just go back to having normal conversations with people in my life and one-off comments for a while. Every attempt at a conversation here is someone’s excuse for a “debate”. I’m sure you’ll reply with something snarky and assume you’ve “won”. I just wish it wasn’t like that. “To a Kinder World”, as one of my favorite episodes of television, is titled.

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                    10 hours ago

                    You kept insisting that it’s more useful to tell potential victims how to avoid being abused than to direct any advice at abusers here.

                    I’m not twisting it. You are refusing to see how putting the onus on a victim is blaming them for being abused.

                    It is not this woman’s fault that she trusted her boyfriend at one time and he then turned around and accessed her car to torment her after they broke up. It’s his fault for abusing her.