For now they still need connectivity and a person that remotely controls them. It is very likely they jam the frequencies near important people already. Now, the time is near for autonomous seek-and-destroy drones that don’t need connectivity.
That’s why you need to use a survival blanket as an inner layer to reflect the heat, some neutral-colored canvas as a middle-layer, and the camo netting as an outer layer. Preferably with a few inches of separation between each one.
Maybe add in some faraday fabric if you have anything that emits signals
And an SDR on a raspberry pi with some python libraries to scan for incoming threats.
It’s not perfect but it’s better than being a sitting duck
Oh yeah, I was thinking if you had to hide a whole base of operations, command post, resupply depot, or sentinel outpost.
If you’re on the move in a scenario like this, then you’d need to have some means of taking down a drone, and hope to high hell you won’t need to use it.
Mud is a decent insulator so you could smear yourself with that. In the winter you could wear quilted fabrics under a windbreaker. Basically the more insulation keeping the cold off your skin, the more it’s keeping your body heat from being visible to IR.
I also think glass blocks heat radiation to some degree, so maybe using that as some type of parasol or shield, but that might be less feasible. Lining an umbrella with a survival blanket might be possible, but again test it with your own IR lens to be sure
We’ll see these kinds of things in the next war. Russia and Ukraine would be there already if they had time to stockpile the drones rather than needing to deploy them as fast as they can be manufactured.
With a few years of peace to build a reserve, there will more than enough drones and cheap spring-assisted launchers to serve as a terrifying new arm of MAD.
Regardless of how wars are won, they are prevented by altering the risk picture for the enemy.
This is also why many smaller NATO states are scrambling to procure long-range missiles outside of US control. In a hybrid war with Russia, they would control the escalation ladder - I.e. be able to yeet some high explosives at powerplants and fuel depots - rather than relying on Washington to grant permission.
Ukraine has been doing similar with the flamingo and other cruise ‘missile drone’ projects. Iran as well - look at their response to US aggression.
The trajectory is clear, mass precision strike is cheap and corresponding defense is not. Having a stockpile of millions of flying problems for your enemy to consider is the best deterrent short of nuclear weapons.
Right, but I thought you were saying we would see these things to the posts drones that can follow humans through the forest, not the general drones for hitting nonhuman targets.
Ukraine built 8 million drones in the first half of 2026. Many different types, but the majority of them are designed to directly attack humans and light vehicles.
The limiting factor in their deployment is the number of operators - currently the most common operating model is 1 drone per operator at a time, which means there are only so many drones in the air at the same time. These kinds of hunting algorithms will allow the scale of drone warfare to increase by loosening the operator bottleneck.
There is force generation (recruitment, manufacturing, organization, etc.) and force employment (actually using those resources to achieve goals). Force generation for unmanned systems is already mature - again we are making millions of these things already - further advancement will come in force employment.
Got any source for those numbers. I am fine with being wrong, but my impression from things I have read was that they were focused on drones that hit targets farther away. And that human targeting drones were the lesser of the production focus.
The stuff I read talked about fiber optic cable for controlling the smaller ones becuase the jamming was too good. But it took a lot of cable. And each one required a circuit board and all that. The electronics were the harder to get part, so a bigger drone made better use of it.
But like I said, I could have gotten the wrong impression.
There aren’t sources that directly confirm the exact numbers of drones across types, as that is sensitive information in the middle of a war.
There are sources that put the FPV drone number in the millions annually, with long range strike being in the thousands. Source
By spring 2026, Ukraine produces an estimated 1–4M FPV attack drones per year across hundreds of distributed production facilities, 500–1,000+ long-range strike drones per month, advanced naval surface drones, and growing categories of reconnaissance and electronic warfare UAVs.
Statements from the Prime minister and defense minister agree Source
Ukrainian defense companies intend to manufacture nearly 3,000 cruise missiles and drone missiles, as well as at least 30,000 long-range drones. Prime Minister Denys Shmyhal stated … Defense Minister Rustem Umerov said on 21 September 2024 that Ukraine plans to produce several million drones in 2025
Millions manufactured with thousands planned to be long-range strike, the balance is short-range drones. Source
Small FPV drones: Annual production target of 6 to 7 million units, equating to roughly 500,000 per month.
Manufacturing base: Approximately 450 to 500 drone enterprises operating on a distributed model across the country. At theoretical maximum capacity, this network can push 19,000 aerial vehicles into the battlespace per day.
Long-range strike drones: The FP-series (long-range fixed-wing strike UAVs) has surpassed 100,000 units in cumulative production.
And then there’s the coming swarm technology to increase force employment:
On 17 February 2026, Minister of Strategic Industries Herman Smetanin announced the successful trial of AI-based drone swarm technology. Seven teams of manufacturers demonstrated a single-operator system capable of controlling dozens of drones in an autonomous network. These swarms plan their own actions and predict the behaviour of others within the network, allowing the operator to focus solely on target authorisation.
Source
No. No peace for you, only being hunted by autonomous drones. Now please kindly start running so we can test our latest movement prediction algorithms. You may feel a small pinch as the drone catches you, but don’t worry, it’ll soon be over.
I feel like the nightmares I started having several years ago are starting to become real.
People said I was having psychosis but no, I was looking into the future and seeing the most likely conclusion of the road the world is going down if we don’t change course.
It’s not like I saw it in a crystal ball or anything like that. Just basic sequential cause-and-effect. But people would rather blindly step off a cliff because “well we haven’t plunged to our demise yet, so clearly it must be safe to continue without adjustment.”
Fuck it, string me up on a cross then. If it means enduring world peace, sufficient climate action, and ecological restoration. Oh and also restorative justice, an end to poverty and hunger, and universal healthcare and education. Worldwide of course. Forever.
I will however require binding and actionable guarantees first. Once the paperwork is in order I shall meet you in Gethsemane. Or shall we skip straight to Golgotha?
This is likely the most brilliant comment I will read today, or any time soon. I’d punch out for any one of those things. Even for a solid chance, no guarantees needed.
Yeah, I thought about settling for less. Maybe one or two things. But then I thought “wait a minute, if I die then I can’t keep fighting for the rest. If I live I can fight on for a few more decades, maybe make a bigger difference.”
Maybe dying would be quicker and easier than living to fight for a better world, but knowing the snakes who would be doing the crucifying, if you leave them any room to wiggle out of their end of the bargain they’ll be shredding the contract before you’re done gasping out your last breaths.
So don’t sell yourself short! You’re worth everything, or no deal.
Don’t worry! They have ground-penetrating lidar for that. Specifically developed based on the US military’s experiences in Vietnam, where the Vietnamese used a lot of tunnel systems.
The expertise might be out there somewhere. The harder part is the equipment. If you’re talking hand tools, it’s going to be laborious and time consuming.
If a net can trick the lidar though, you could set up a wall of net with a small opening to run through, and hope to high heaven the drone gets stuck in the net.
I’m surprised that mass produced drone swarms haven’t been deployed against populations yet. The economics of it is terrifying.
I remember playing black ops 2 a long time ago and when a friend of mine played, he always used the drone swarm killstreak.
I remember him laughing once about how the map we were on barely had cover from them.
I told him he won’t be laughing when it’s us trying to run from a drone swarm in 20 years for stealing a rich cunt’s clean water.
Then we laughed at just how ridiculous that sounded.
I miss when it was funny 😭
Well, CoD: Black Ops II came out in 2012, so if this tech gets commercialized in six years you’ll be spot-on.
I’m surprised there hasn’t been casual assassinations outside of war zones with them yet.
There is this YouTube short movie about a future like that. The tiny drone just flies into someone’s face with a small explosion to kill them.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=O-2tpwW0kmU
For now they still need connectivity and a person that remotely controls them. It is very likely they jam the frequencies near important people already. Now, the time is near for autonomous seek-and-destroy drones that don’t need connectivity.
Already knew what video that was, watched again for the 8th time again.
Ha, they’d never do that…
btw, Have you noticed camo netting has gotten crazy expensive? Must just be inflation
Who gives a shit about nets those things have infrared heat detection.
And tiny propellers that get snagged in nets.
And sometimes the bigger ones too:
Excellent point I hadn’t thought of that.
That’s why you need to use a survival blanket as an inner layer to reflect the heat, some neutral-colored canvas as a middle-layer, and the camo netting as an outer layer. Preferably with a few inches of separation between each one.
Maybe add in some faraday fabric if you have anything that emits signals
And an SDR on a raspberry pi with some python libraries to scan for incoming threats.
It’s not perfect but it’s better than being a sitting duck
Hmmm. Problem I see with that is the thermal blanket reflects IR away from itself, so if you are inside of it, you still heat up.
Yes, and that keeps the warmth inside the tent, so that it’s not visible to IR from the outside.
You can test it first if you have an IR lens. If you’re handy with solder you can build one with parts from arduino, mouser or similar
Oh, I meant that it essentially gets hotter over time. If you’re on the move, that could become a problem pretty fast
Oh yeah, I was thinking if you had to hide a whole base of operations, command post, resupply depot, or sentinel outpost.
If you’re on the move in a scenario like this, then you’d need to have some means of taking down a drone, and hope to high hell you won’t need to use it.
Mud is a decent insulator so you could smear yourself with that. In the winter you could wear quilted fabrics under a windbreaker. Basically the more insulation keeping the cold off your skin, the more it’s keeping your body heat from being visible to IR.
I also think glass blocks heat radiation to some degree, so maybe using that as some type of parasol or shield, but that might be less feasible. Lining an umbrella with a survival blanket might be possible, but again test it with your own IR lens to be sure
Great ideas imo
Just some good old-fashioned innocent cyberpunk doomsday scenario role play
Nothing to see here!
Emphasis on camo. They have some ir blocking.
To a point. The heat has to go somewhere.
Ideally there’s an air gap between the hot thing and the net. The heat shouldn’t transfer directly to the net.
We’ll see these kinds of things in the next war. Russia and Ukraine would be there already if they had time to stockpile the drones rather than needing to deploy them as fast as they can be manufactured.
With a few years of peace to build a reserve, there will more than enough drones and cheap spring-assisted launchers to serve as a terrifying new arm of MAD.
I’m not sure. Wars are won by costing the enemy’s money these days. So they are using drones on infrastructure, becuase that costs more than soldiers.
Regardless of how wars are won, they are prevented by altering the risk picture for the enemy.
This is also why many smaller NATO states are scrambling to procure long-range missiles outside of US control. In a hybrid war with Russia, they would control the escalation ladder - I.e. be able to yeet some high explosives at powerplants and fuel depots - rather than relying on Washington to grant permission.
Ukraine has been doing similar with the flamingo and other cruise ‘missile drone’ projects. Iran as well - look at their response to US aggression.
The trajectory is clear, mass precision strike is cheap and corresponding defense is not. Having a stockpile of millions of flying problems for your enemy to consider is the best deterrent short of nuclear weapons.
Right, but I thought you were saying we would see these things to the posts drones that can follow humans through the forest, not the general drones for hitting nonhuman targets.
Ukraine built 8 million drones in the first half of 2026. Many different types, but the majority of them are designed to directly attack humans and light vehicles.
The limiting factor in their deployment is the number of operators - currently the most common operating model is 1 drone per operator at a time, which means there are only so many drones in the air at the same time. These kinds of hunting algorithms will allow the scale of drone warfare to increase by loosening the operator bottleneck.
There is force generation (recruitment, manufacturing, organization, etc.) and force employment (actually using those resources to achieve goals). Force generation for unmanned systems is already mature - again we are making millions of these things already - further advancement will come in force employment.
And what a fresh hell that will be.
Got any source for those numbers. I am fine with being wrong, but my impression from things I have read was that they were focused on drones that hit targets farther away. And that human targeting drones were the lesser of the production focus. The stuff I read talked about fiber optic cable for controlling the smaller ones becuase the jamming was too good. But it took a lot of cable. And each one required a circuit board and all that. The electronics were the harder to get part, so a bigger drone made better use of it. But like I said, I could have gotten the wrong impression.
There aren’t sources that directly confirm the exact numbers of drones across types, as that is sensitive information in the middle of a war.
There are sources that put the FPV drone number in the millions annually, with long range strike being in the thousands. Source
Statements from the Prime minister and defense minister agree Source
Millions manufactured with thousands planned to be long-range strike, the balance is short-range drones. Source
And then there’s the coming swarm technology to increase force employment:
What the fuck
People attempting to take your life and land is quite motivating.
“Nothing in life is so exhilarating as to be shot at without result.”
― Winston Churchill
Can we just have world peace instead?
No. No peace for you, only being hunted by autonomous drones. Now please kindly start running so we can test our latest movement prediction algorithms. You may feel a small pinch as the drone catches you, but don’t worry, it’ll soon be over.
I feel like the nightmares I started having several years ago are starting to become real.
People said I was having psychosis but no, I was looking into the future and seeing the most likely conclusion of the road the world is going down if we don’t change course.
It’s not like I saw it in a crystal ball or anything like that. Just basic sequential cause-and-effect. But people would rather blindly step off a cliff because “well we haven’t plunged to our demise yet, so clearly it must be safe to continue without adjustment.”
What are you willing to give for that?
A few world leaders like Putin
Would anything I offer be enough?
If you dedicate your life to it, it could be.
Fuck it, string me up on a cross then. If it means enduring world peace, sufficient climate action, and ecological restoration. Oh and also restorative justice, an end to poverty and hunger, and universal healthcare and education. Worldwide of course. Forever.
I will however require binding and actionable guarantees first. Once the paperwork is in order I shall meet you in Gethsemane. Or shall we skip straight to Golgotha?
No skipping, no quick solution. World peace may take the rest of your life and there is no guarantee.
Yes and the odds are stacked against it at that
This is likely the most brilliant comment I will read today, or any time soon. I’d punch out for any one of those things. Even for a solid chance, no guarantees needed.
Yeah, I thought about settling for less. Maybe one or two things. But then I thought “wait a minute, if I die then I can’t keep fighting for the rest. If I live I can fight on for a few more decades, maybe make a bigger difference.”
Maybe dying would be quicker and easier than living to fight for a better world, but knowing the snakes who would be doing the crucifying, if you leave them any room to wiggle out of their end of the bargain they’ll be shredding the contract before you’re done gasping out your last breaths.
So don’t sell yourself short! You’re worth everything, or no deal.
The only way we can fight back is in tunnels. None of us know how to build tunnels.
Don’t worry! They have ground-penetrating lidar for that. Specifically developed based on the US military’s experiences in Vietnam, where the Vietnamese used a lot of tunnel systems.
The expertise might be out there somewhere. The harder part is the equipment. If you’re talking hand tools, it’s going to be laborious and time consuming.
If a net can trick the lidar though, you could set up a wall of net with a small opening to run through, and hope to high heaven the drone gets stuck in the net.
It would require some precise planning though.