“Jeffries didn’t even whip the vote,” one critic said about the House minority leader, who wants to be speaker. “This is why people want a stronger leader.”
As House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries seeks to become speaker when Democrats retake Congress in January, critics questioned his leadership Tuesday after the Republican-led lower chamber effectively blocked a bid to impeach Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth by just seven votes—an outcome that may have been averted if more Democrats showed up to vote.
The 211-204 procedural vote effectively torpedoed Congressman Thomas Massie’s attempt to impeach Hegseth by sending the outgoing Kentucky Republican’s resolution to the House Judiciary Committee, where it will likely gather dust during the remainder of the GOP-controlled congressional term.
So you think people’s lives are just numbers on a screen? Is politics a game for you? Oh well we losing this time so might as well not try. PEOPLE ARE DYING. Israel is killing people every single day. Ice is killing people everyday. There are thousands of immigrants sitting in concentration camps. They are getting raped and tortured EVERY SINGLE DAY. This isn’t a fucking game. It’s not about winning and losing. We have an obligation to uphold justice and protect as many people as we possibly can.
Tell me you don’t know how the process works without telling me. The only person acting like it’s a game is you. I’m arguing for effective action, you want pointless theatre. Go ahead and explain how that would be accomplished or just keep virtue signaling into the void.
still requires super majority in the Senate so he likely won’t get ousted before or after new senators are seated (without 10+ Republican defections)
still, there’s enough representation to refer him to the Senate for prosecution and a strong inquiry to made
Yea, but after the new members are present it’s more likely to get a supermajority and they’ll get to block any unhinged replacement after. Trying to do it now is just pointless.
1st stipulation still feels like a stretch but maybe you’re right. 2nd is plain wrong as there is always value in delivering justice.
it wouldn’t be pointless but could be materially worse if the replacement was indeed more unhinged. but that’s as hypothetical as a successful impeachment so either way it’s speculative.
Sorry, what are you referring to when you say “delivering justice” if absolutely nothing would come out of an attempted impeachment right now? (This vote wasn’t a vote to impeach btw, and for that vote there’s no way republicans would bring it to the floor without their majority present).
i know how the process works. the House doesn’t impeach, they vote to refer to the Senate where Reps prosecute the case for impeachment and Senators vote on it.
i don’t think we’re going to agree. i believe that the act of a impeachment that is foregone for failure still serves a talent purpose of opening the opportunity for investigation and signals to your constituents that you’re using what powers you have to try to serve their will. my reading of your take is that if an action produces anything other than its manifest purpose, it’s a failure.
What’s crazy is you saw the last 2 years and are arguing about the process. You learned nothing under this dictatorship. The rules don’t mean anything. They do whatever they want. Only when democrats want to do something it’s theater or about following processes. Our politicians, both left and right, have WAY more power than they let on. The red tape is is self imposed. When enough people get angry we can make massive change and if you ask me the American people need to see things being done. All beauocracy is theatre and maybe if the left actually put some theater for us more people would get mad and actually do something.
It is sad that you see giving up as a valid option. When the cards you want aren’t on the table you flip the fucking table. It sounds ridiculous but people’s lives are at stake. Do you even care about all the people that will die because they will be priced out of their life saving medications? I guess fighting for healthcare is performative too.
Notice how you didn’t lay out the sequence of events you expected. You seem confused about the difference between congress and executive orders, you might want to check that out. Or you can just virtue signal into the void yet again.