I am ethically and morally opposed to gen AI as a concept. As far as the breaking point, let me explain. I’ve been a machinist for ~18 years. It’s been really bad for the last 9 years and I’ve more or less had to live off of savings from the good years (those savings are basically gone).
I’ve just recently gotten legitimate job offers for ~$125 an hour remote because I own a CNC. The catch is that I have to record all of the CAM programming and machine time in order to train an AI to replace potentially hundreds of thousands of jobs.
This fucking sucks. I’d love to sit on my ass forever at 43, but I absolutely fucking hate the potential that I could bring that would crush the working class and elevate the owning class.
I wish it wasn’t this hard, because I really do believe in socialism and have labored hard for a long time to make it happen - but there’s a chance I can put everything I have into true anarchism cause and make a legitimate difference.
Please help.
That’s a cool comment from an alternate universe where there is both a strong social consensus and sufficient strike funds to wage labour action against the use of AI for work. Sounds nice over there.
Of course you should resist. I would prefer it if OP wouldn’t sell out his data for AI training, but I can’t reasonably demand that he would rather become destitute than support AI. Especially if he is dying on this hill farily alone.
While there may be popular opposition against AI datacenters, the same can not be said for the encroachment of AI on society in general. Many of the people we would need for a mass anti-AI movement are compromised by “convenient” chatbots or income based on the AI bubble. This will not be the case forever, but you need to realize when the cultural force is not behind you and shape your resistance accordingly. Right now that may mean, lay low, consolidate your allies, persuade people, and be ready for when this stupid doomed technofash project collapses under its own weight.
I live without AI perfectly fine but gaslight away. So do the people in my life. Plenty of them have jobs where they never use AI because they never used AI and always resisted it and so don’t have to. I’ve seen it with my eyes, you’re just weak and scared of living without AI
My guy/gal/goyle, I do in fact not use LLMs. Avoid them like the plague and encourage everyone I know to do the same. I also use Linux, self-host, own a non-Android/Apple phone, and (most shamefully) post on the threadiverse. I am also aware that the averagely IT-savvy person would have no fucking clue what any of that means.
If your circle is tech-progressive, I am happy for you. But maybe go read a statistic about general AI adoption, and have a think what it would take to move the needle on public opinion there. I agree that slop bros need some shaming, but coming off preachy and elitist doesn’t do us any good.
You’re bending the knee because of an article you read. To me that’s so sad and pathetic. You are genuinely such a poser.
Also I have yet to see it and that data is manufactured by businesses with interests, obviously. Everyone I know IRL to a 99% ratio (and I know a lot of people) hate AI and don’t use it and we all encourage each other to do the same. It started from a place of disagreement and protest. Rocking the boat. You HAVE to do it
Well fine, if you wanna ninja-edit… I can’t find a stat right now and many do try to fluff AI, but I think some of the numbers can be trusted. My vibe assessment was that sometimes- and often-users make up 50-60% here (DE). This fits my social experience. My area is probably more conservative than yours.
Delaware? I’m from there lol.
I’m aware people use it and there are circles where it’s more prevalent, but I reject the notion that you must adapt by taking an AI job and there is no recourse to it’s popularity. That’s ridiculous, my dads a recruiter ffs I’ve had this argument a million times in another subject. You don’t go working for the war machine because it’s harmful and doesn’t pay off.
Plus tech dies off into it’s niche all the time. VR was years ago now
Lol no, DE as in Deutschland.
All I’m saying is, there’s a difference between the relatively few boosters and grifters and the majority who were pressured into it. There’s lots gray zones of culpability in there, but I don’t think we can effectively shun everyone who laid hands on AI.
You’re not good faith.
No one suggested shunning anyone who has ever used AI.
We are talking about training an AI for work. I don’t witch hunt everyone who has typed a google search. You are making a false equivalence. You can absolutely survive without taking an AI job, period.
Okay, but we’re not talking about a proper “AI job” either, like making 200k/yr at Anthropic. OP has offers to do presumably useful work, but an AI company has managed to insert itself into the process. That feels solidly grey-area to me.
Whether that is condemnable depends on OP’s economic situation, whether there’s alternatives, what their finances look like. I also don’t blame AI click workers in Nigeria after all.
You’re holding frame very well. I’ll remember that response for the next time someone waves a statistic at me.
The argument will have to rest until you can appreciate how utterly I am world-weariness-mogging you right now.