such a funny time for this discourse again ☕

    • Resplendent606@piefed.social
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      Yes, Karl Marx wrote:

      “Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary.”

      “To be able forcefully and threateningly to oppose this party [bourgeois], the workers must be armed and organized.”

    • Ginny [they/she]@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      I don’t think being anti-gun makes one not an actual leftist.

      Sure, Marx wrote that stuff in Resplendent606’s comment, but:

      • I think it’s worth bearing in mind that when Marx wrote that, guns were still using powder and percussion caps.
      • Not everything Marx said was gospel.

      Anyone not in favour of recreational nukes is in agreement that there should be a limit on the amount of lethal force a person should be allowed to own, and I think reasonable people can disagree on whether or not guns are within that limit.

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        I think it’s worth bearing in mind that when Marx wrote that, guns were still using powder and percussion caps.

        The Gatling Gun predates came out a 5 years before Das Kapital. Sure arms hadn’t had the revolution they’d get during WW1 yet, but they were plenty capable.

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            Marx made regular writings and letters to contemporary movements up until his death. At no point did he back down on violent, sudden revolution as the path to achieving Socialism. Marx was many things, but he wasn’t anti-gun.