you understand how this is absolutely silly, right?
the equivalent to your situation is not calling all socialists nazis, because “see nazis had ‘socialist’ in their name”.
an equivalant would be to assume that someone who calls themselves a communist, and uses the flag of the soviet union or china, is indeed authoritarian (or maybe just very misinformed or edgy?), when they really are their own new kind of communist, who rejects all other communists and who uses the flag and name because they “just like the aestetic” and want to “reclaim it from the authoritarians”.
i think it should be clear how the assumtion is in one case unjustified and either born out of ignorance or malice, and in the other case the only possible assumtion to make, untill the communist in question provides additional information.
now consider that many here probably experiance right libertarians a threat to their own safety and freedom, in their actual lives, and you might understand why they might not give people using the symbolism of right libertarianism much benefit of the doubt.
it’s not about the word “libertarian”. its about the flag (in combination with the word). the flag was not coopted to be a right libertarian thing, it has always been. you cant reclaim that. if you want to reclaim the word “libertarian” it’s probably smarter to disassociate it from right libertarian symbolism
you understand how this is absolutely silly, right?
the equivalent to your situation is not calling all socialists nazis, because “see nazis had ‘socialist’ in their name”.
an equivalant would be to assume that someone who calls themselves a communist, and uses the flag of the soviet union or china, is indeed authoritarian (or maybe just very misinformed or edgy?), when they really are their own new kind of communist, who rejects all other communists and who uses the flag and name because they “just like the aestetic” and want to “reclaim it from the authoritarians”.
i think it should be clear how the assumtion is in one case unjustified and either born out of ignorance or malice, and in the other case the only possible assumtion to make, untill the communist in question provides additional information.
now consider that many here probably experiance right libertarians a threat to their own safety and freedom, in their actual lives, and you might understand why they might not give people using the symbolism of right libertarianism much benefit of the doubt.
Yeah… The silliness was the literal point.
Actually it’s a 1:1 comparison
The word “socialism” was co-opted The word “libertarian” was co-opted
If you assume all libertarians must be those who co-opted the term, then I assume all socialists are those who co-opted the term.
But whatever. Echo chamber going to echo.
it’s not about the word “libertarian”. its about the flag (in combination with the word). the flag was not coopted to be a right libertarian thing, it has always been. you cant reclaim that. if you want to reclaim the word “libertarian” it’s probably smarter to disassociate it from right libertarian symbolism