• ZombieCyborgFromOuterSpace@piefed.ca
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    2 days ago

    Fuck man. This is such a shit situation.

    We need new cars NOW. But what we ought to be doing is expanding rail infrastructure and public transit.

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      2 days ago

      K, but transit takes 4-10 years to build and will still never be able to cover cases like transporting the truly frail and sickly, large amounts of stuff, or going to remote and sparse places, because the last mile edge of the network is still a last mile at minimum, especially in inclement weather.

      Cars are still going to exist for the long term forseeable future, we can try and minimize their use by providing better alternatives but we still need to plan for a future where they exist.

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        Yeah, I mean it’s as Carney said in his speech:

        We take the world as it is, not as we wish it to be

        • ZombieCyborgFromOuterSpace@piefed.ca
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          2 days ago

          The guy is in the big fucking chair. Right now he has the power to steer the future where we want it to be. But he ain’t going to do it because he can’t think outside the bank. We need someone with more vision and more guts.

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            Lmao your take is that the Prime Ministership of Canada, the free leader of all of 0.049% of the global population (almost a full half of 0.1 percent!), is the “big fucking chair” that can single handily steer global events in any way he chooses?

            You’re also presuming that when he does steer them, that that steering will be out in the open and plainly obvious for everyone to see?

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              1 day ago

              You misinterpreted my comment.

              Of course he’s limited to Canada. He can change policies, decide to invest in greener alternatives, etc. But instead all he thinks about is counting some beans. So he’s investing in what brings profit at he detriment of everything else.

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                Quite frankly, the beans matter a great deal and you will get absolutely nowhere if you ignore them.

                I trust him to try and change things while counting beans over people claiming that you can ignore them because they find paying attention to them boring and slow.

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                  1 day ago

                  Can we agree than there should be some kind of compromise? Maybe not prioritize counting beans over everything else?

                  We’re seriously lagging behind as China is ahead of the curve with green technology, mass transit, reducing their carbon footprint by planting trees, etc.

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                    Can we agree than there should be some kind of compromise? Maybe not prioritize counting beans over everything else?

                    Sure.

                    We’re seriously lagging behind as China is ahead of the curve with green technology, mass transit, reducing their carbon footprint by planting trees, etc.

                    Yes, and how did China power the rise of its manufacturing industry and consequent rise of its green technology manufacturing industry? By burning massive amounts of coal and oil and gas while focusing on economic growth. How did China build huge amounts of Mass Transit and infrastructure projects? By steamrolling over local resident and environmental concerns to build the projects in the name of the greater good of the country.

                    No one is perfect, but I do know that your characterizations of Carney are, at minimum, wildly over confident given the available information, if not also wildly inaccurate.

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        1 day ago

        Lemmy seems to instinctively respond with “more transit” even when it doesn’t make sense. It’s hard to go too far with that one, but we’ve managed.

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            Eventually yes, and we should. Does it have anything to do with trade policy with China in 2026? Not particularly; it’s sort of interconnected the way everything is, but that’s all. (Or was that the joke?)