Unless you are eating octopus or calamari, every piece of meat ever comes with the possibility of bones.
Ok bud, so when I buy a chicken breast, it’s totally impossible for me to butcher and clean it in a way that there aren’t going to be bones in the end result?
You think bones just randomly grow throughout the muscle in impossible to predict ways?
Why on earth, should a corporation be allowed to advertise that they sell boneless wings that have bones in them? This isn’t the government holding someone’s hand this is the government preventing a massive corporation from lying and cutting corners to the point that people get hurt. Like Jesus Christ do you work for Tyson foods, are you sleep deprived, or genuinely just this daft?
Tyson produces over 5.5 billion (with a B) chicken wings per year. Let’s assume it’s a similar number of boneless chicken wings.
Can you propose a process that is so flawless that it won’t fail a single time out of 5.5 Billion?
If you had ten people checking every single nugget by hand, you still might miss one out of every 5.5 BILLION.
No process is flawless, and it’s impossible to expect it to be.
Now, when a problem happens, I’d agree that Tyson should be on the hook to cover medical costs, etc. This shouldn’t hinge on the definition of “boneless.” Regardless of whether the customer should have known there was the chance of bone or not, their product caused harm in an unexpected way, and they should be liable for that.
But to expect them to have a literal perfect record of 0/5,500,000,000 is asinine.
Can you propose a process that is so flawless that it won’t fail a single time out of 5.5 Billion?
Well yeah, two obvious ones:
what you do with chicken nuggets, where you grind the meat.
where you train and pay your employees well and have quality control processes and audits to detect whenever something goes wrong.
Now, when a problem happens, I’d agree that Tyson should be on the hook to cover medical costs, etc. This shouldn’t hinge on the definition of “boneless.” Regardless of whether the customer should have known there was the chance of bone or not, their product caused harm in an unexpected way, and they should be liable for that.
It entirely hinges on that definition. Tyson isn’t going to get sued or cover shit if you choke on a bone in a normal chicken wing.
The harm occurred only because Tyson advertised them as boneless when they weren’t.
Grinding the meat leads to a substantively different product. One people often don’t want for a particular application.
There’s no human based QC system on earth that will have zero failures out of 5.5 billion attempts. It is quite literally impossible.
We’re splitting hairs on the definitional point. What I intended to say was that you don’t have to support that boneless chicken nuggets are required to be bone free to find that a reasonable person would not expect to find a bone in boneless wings as a matter of course. While a reasonable person shouldn’t be surprised to find a bone in a boneless wing, anymore than they should be surprised to find a seed in a seedless watermelon, should that bone cause damage the company should be at fault because the bone was not intended to be there, and was included due to a mishap in their manufacturing process. An unavoidable mishap, but a mishap nonetheless.
It’s like how someone will die in a dangerous line of work, even if you take every possible precaution. Eventually, even if it takes 100yrs, something bad will happen because people are people. Even though the company did everything right, they should still have to pay out workman’s compensation for the death/injury.
Ok bud, so when I buy a chicken breast, it’s totally impossible for me to butcher and clean it in a way that there aren’t going to be bones in the end result?
You think bones just randomly grow throughout the muscle in impossible to predict ways?
Why on earth, should a corporation be allowed to advertise that they sell boneless wings that have bones in them? This isn’t the government holding someone’s hand this is the government preventing a massive corporation from lying and cutting corners to the point that people get hurt. Like Jesus Christ do you work for Tyson foods, are you sleep deprived, or genuinely just this daft?
Tyson produces over 5.5 billion (with a B) chicken wings per year. Let’s assume it’s a similar number of boneless chicken wings.
Can you propose a process that is so flawless that it won’t fail a single time out of 5.5 Billion?
If you had ten people checking every single nugget by hand, you still might miss one out of every 5.5 BILLION.
No process is flawless, and it’s impossible to expect it to be.
Now, when a problem happens, I’d agree that Tyson should be on the hook to cover medical costs, etc. This shouldn’t hinge on the definition of “boneless.” Regardless of whether the customer should have known there was the chance of bone or not, their product caused harm in an unexpected way, and they should be liable for that.
But to expect them to have a literal perfect record of 0/5,500,000,000 is asinine.
Well yeah, two obvious ones:
what you do with chicken nuggets, where you grind the meat.
where you train and pay your employees well and have quality control processes and audits to detect whenever something goes wrong.
It entirely hinges on that definition. Tyson isn’t going to get sued or cover shit if you choke on a bone in a normal chicken wing.
The harm occurred only because Tyson advertised them as boneless when they weren’t.
Grinding the meat leads to a substantively different product. One people often don’t want for a particular application.
There’s no human based QC system on earth that will have zero failures out of 5.5 billion attempts. It is quite literally impossible.
We’re splitting hairs on the definitional point. What I intended to say was that you don’t have to support that boneless chicken nuggets are required to be bone free to find that a reasonable person would not expect to find a bone in boneless wings as a matter of course. While a reasonable person shouldn’t be surprised to find a bone in a boneless wing, anymore than they should be surprised to find a seed in a seedless watermelon, should that bone cause damage the company should be at fault because the bone was not intended to be there, and was included due to a mishap in their manufacturing process. An unavoidable mishap, but a mishap nonetheless.
It’s like how someone will die in a dangerous line of work, even if you take every possible precaution. Eventually, even if it takes 100yrs, something bad will happen because people are people. Even though the company did everything right, they should still have to pay out workman’s compensation for the death/injury.