I think people are tired if seeing immigrants come to the country and then become net tax recipients, meanwhile people whose ancestors have lived here for hundreds of years are struggling and getting no help from the government.
I understand feelings around struggle and how they get directed. Ive looked at broader statistics around immigration and economics, but not specifically around tax receipt vs contribution over time, so I’m genuinely curious about the statistics on immigrants becoming net tax recipients.
I am perhaps making a jump but I think it would be easy to say that this is not just a Somali issue. I don’t think Somalis are extra exploitative or something, I think they’re smart people from a poor country where you do whatever you can to survive.
And a lot of nations are like that, and I would imagine that many of them have found the same loopholes in our state and federal government.
Yikes, those outcomes are rough and not an easy problem to address. But we were talking about immigrants in general, not a particular subgroup of immigrants. I could carve out a sub-population of US-born people, like fentanyl addicts and show they’re a net drain on tax-payers too. Or entire states like West Virginia or Alabama for that matter.
I wasn’t suggesting that nobody else does this at all. I’m saying that the proportion matters, the statistics both in subpopulations and overall tell the complete story. What you’re suggesting is like saying a state like Alaska or California alone is representative of the entire country.
My initial post said people were tired of seeing immigrants using and exploiting government welfare; not that the vast majority of them are exploiting.
Can you elaborate? Because I don’t think it’s true and I can’t Google anything that would confirm your argument. (So I think you might’ve dreamed up that)
In the EU, as an immigrant you are able to get social security, medical care and other assistances if you are an inhabitant.
When you are an asylum seeker you get a special amount of money for your apartment and pocket money.
Some people in european countries hate that, and feel like these people dont deserve that.
But I dont see any of this stuff beeing given to US folks, so why do they want immigrants out?
And yes, the massive fuckup with all those West European countries letting in asylum seekers is very unpopular with the population (see backpedaling in Denmark).
In the EU, as an immigrant you are able to get […] medical care
As is fucking proper. Do you want people too sick to work on the streets?
I’m not an USian so for the last part of your comment, I also have no idea about the sentiments.
I know, that asylum seekers are not immigrants. My point was, that as an immigrant you can get the same social security as everybody else, which the least thing in my opinion.
The weird part, is everybody wants human rights, but if others get it its a problem…
I think people are tired if seeing immigrants come to the country and then become net tax recipients, meanwhile people whose ancestors have lived here for hundreds of years are struggling and getting no help from the government.
Curious about the statistics on this. Which ones are you looking at?
I’m curious if you’re actually curious or if thats a simi-intelectual attempt at a jab.
I understand feelings around struggle and how they get directed. Ive looked at broader statistics around immigration and economics, but not specifically around tax receipt vs contribution over time, so I’m genuinely curious about the statistics on immigrants becoming net tax recipients.
https://cis.org/Report/Somali-Immigrants-Minnesota
I am perhaps making a jump but I think it would be easy to say that this is not just a Somali issue. I don’t think Somalis are extra exploitative or something, I think they’re smart people from a poor country where you do whatever you can to survive.
And a lot of nations are like that, and I would imagine that many of them have found the same loopholes in our state and federal government.
Yikes, those outcomes are rough and not an easy problem to address. But we were talking about immigrants in general, not a particular subgroup of immigrants. I could carve out a sub-population of US-born people, like fentanyl addicts and show they’re a net drain on tax-payers too. Or entire states like West Virginia or Alabama for that matter.
There’s no reason to believe that only Somalis do this, only somalis have been caught.
The idea that only one culture of immigrants does this doesn’t fly in my book.
I wasn’t suggesting that nobody else does this at all. I’m saying that the proportion matters, the statistics both in subpopulations and overall tell the complete story. What you’re suggesting is like saying a state like Alaska or California alone is representative of the entire country.
My initial post said people were tired of seeing immigrants using and exploiting government welfare; not that the vast majority of them are exploiting.
Nah. Immigrant communities are actually interesting. They even know how to work.
I’m tired of religious cucks using my tax money to bloviate about how special they are.
How do you get these tax money in the US?
Just medical care or some shit? I can understand, and still dont support such people in EU, where they get a lot of money.
But wtf do you get in the USA?
Can you elaborate? Because I don’t think it’s true and I can’t Google anything that would confirm your argument. (So I think you might’ve dreamed up that)
In the EU, as an immigrant you are able to get social security, medical care and other assistances if you are an inhabitant. When you are an asylum seeker you get a special amount of money for your apartment and pocket money.
Some people in european countries hate that, and feel like these people dont deserve that.
But I dont see any of this stuff beeing given to US folks, so why do they want immigrants out?
Asylum seeker =/= immigrant.
And yes, the massive fuckup with all those West European countries letting in asylum seekers is very unpopular with the population (see backpedaling in Denmark).
As is fucking proper. Do you want people too sick to work on the streets?
I’m not an USian so for the last part of your comment, I also have no idea about the sentiments.
I know, that asylum seekers are not immigrants. My point was, that as an immigrant you can get the same social security as everybody else, which the least thing in my opinion. The weird part, is everybody wants human rights, but if others get it its a problem…