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The next phase of ICE’s big ramp-up: a nationwide network of vast detention facilities. But guess what? Even parts of Red America are saying no.
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Will this be the thing that finally makes Trump’s base abando-
Of course not, don’t be ridiculous.
Yeah they don’t care. Articles like this are lib clickbait “don’t revolt” propaganda. MAGA don’t even KNOW this is happening. Ask one, they’ll be like “What?” Or “yeah for Mexicans”
Ask them if they know the name Pretti, they’ll tell you they’re Pretti tired of your fake news.
It’s a cult. They’ll abandon him a decade or so after he dies.
While I hope you’re right—they’re still saluting Hitler in 2026, so I think this might be a problem for a long time. Especially with how much media there is of him to brainwash future generations.
That’s the thing, they might retreat for an election cycle, but the propaganda network will have people voting for trumpists in the one after that.
People will get tired of guilt and they will band together re elect trump apologists. The next generation raised on stories of how great trump was will likely be even more dangerous. Trump is a fool and a megalomaniac, a slightly more competent trumpist with most of the charisma could show up any day after he is gone.
Yeah until they see themselves in those that are being detained, they won’t give two shits.
Oh wait, they’re incapable of doing that because that would require the insight and empathy they see as detrimental to their existence.
If this ever ends (notice I said if, not when) right-wing people will still be oblivious that anything happened at all
ITS CALLED A CONCENTRATION CAMP
AND ALL THE WEIGHT THAT ENTAILS
"I’d like to share a story from a local paper in Coldwater, Michigan dated to the 9th of April, 1945. It tells how the US Army, under General Patton–the US 3rd Army–came onto what you might call a detention center just outside the village of Ohrdruf, Germany.
The US Army brought the leading citizens of Ohrdruf to tour the facility, which turned out to be part of the Buchenwald network of concentration camps. A US Army colonel told the German civilians who viewed the scenes, without muttering a word, that they were to blame.
One of the Germans replied that what happened in the camp was (quote) ‘done by a few people, and you cannot blame us all.’ And the American, who could have been any one of our grandfathers, said, ‘this was done by those that the German people chose to lead them, and all are responsible.’
The morning after the tour, the Mayor of Ohrdruf killed himself. And maybe he did not know the full extent of the outrages that were committed in his community, but he knew enough. And we don’t know exactly how ICE will use this warehouse. But we know enough.
I ask you to consider what the Mayor of Ohrdruf might have thought before he died. Maybe he felt like a victim. He might have thought, ‘how is this my fault? I have no jurisdiction over this.’ Maybe he would have said, ‘this site was not subject to local zoning, what could I do?’
But I think, when he reflected on the suffering that occurred at this camp, just outside of town, that those words would have sounded hollow even to him. Because in his heart he knew–as we do–that we are all responsible for what happens in our community.
I urge the council to take action to stop, or stall, or at the barest minimum to think creatively about how to exercise oversight over this proposed ICE facility. Thank you."
For context: The average maximum security prison is 800-1200 people, and the largest, at 8300, is in Angola, LA. That has been sufficient for the most incarcerated nation in America. But MAGA thinks we need to imprison even more.
Everybody seems to have forgotten that one of Trump’s first Executive Orders was the construction of a 30,000 bed facility in Guantanamo Bay.
Expanding Migrant Operations Center at Naval Station Guantanamo Bay to Full Capacity
Trump to prepare facility at Guantanamo for 30,000 migrants
And the $250 million contract has been awarded:
Constellis Announces $249 Million Construction Contract at U.S. Naval Base in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba
Work is currently on progress, and slated to end in 2029, for the next president, I presume.
They’ve been deporting people as fast as they can catch them, and yet they are building facilities all over America, and now this giant one in Guantanamo Bay. If they are deporting people, who do they plan on putting there? The official answer was high profile illegal immigrant criminals, whose home countries couldn’t be trusted to hold them, but there can’t be that many of those people.
So who do they plan holding there, far from the prying eyes of family, lawyers, courts, and especially the media?
And what happens a few years down the line, when nearly all immigrants have been removed? What are they going to do with the richest agency in the government? What are they going to do with all those massive concentration camps? Close them down, and give back the money? Or find a new boogeyman to utilize those resources?
The ones who Epstein can no longer traffic for them. Kids can’t eat and torture themselves you know.
They’re trying to build a prison, for you and me to live in
Another prison system?!
For you and me, oh baby, you and meeeeee
Don’t worry, they don’t want us living in there for long.
I don’t think assuming that NIMBYs don’t want something in “their backyard” for moral reasons is the right take. NIMBYs by definition are selfish and just don’t want whatever it is near them. It’s “Not In My BackYard”.
The places in these red states are probably more than happy to have some more ICE mega-prisons, just in somebody else’s backyard.
Exactly. These guys love prisons and detention centers, they just want them to be built somewhere else.
Yup. In some cases, I bet it is some of the very same dipshits in the hatriot movement that spent the 90s and 00s telling each other scary stories about FEMA death camps, and how Janet Reno, Hillary and Bill Clinton, and the black helicopters were coming for their penises, er, guns, and throw them into FEMA death camps so that the Socializms could be imposed on Murica.
I suppose it’s probably all fine if it’s being overseen by shitstains like Miller and Pedonald and if the (first) people being targeted are brown, black, liberal, trans, etc…
It’s projection. It’s ALWAYS projection. I’d love to see hatriots tracked over time and what they’ve supported under Donvict.
I took the same thing from this article as you. This is part of why Guantanamo Bay never closed; there was no place where the detainees’ presence was tolerated. People don’t want the object of their fear in their backyard. They want it as far away as possible. This is also why the six extermination camps like Auschwitz were not on German soil. Not in Germans’ backyard.
Fun fact - when Obama declared that he was going to close Guantanamo Bay, mitch mcconnell decided that he would do whatever it took to keep it open, because his sole purpose for existing at that time was to obstruct Obama’s policies. He did that in part by pushing legislation that made it illegal to transfer foreign detainees to American soil, effectively making it so that there was nowhere else to keep them. It was less to do with people tolerating detainees presence and more to do with mcconnell just gumming up the works because fuck Obama.
Yes, McConnell was a big factor, but Democrats went along with him, and that was probably NIMBY-related https://www.npr.org/2009/05/20/104334339/democrats-block-funding-to-close-guantanamo
WELNA: Like Majority Leader Reid, Indiana Democrat Evan Bayh is up for reelection next year. He, too, opposes sending Guantanamo detainees to the U.S.
EVAN BAYH: We have a supermax facility in Terre Haute, Indiana. I don’t think the citizens of my state would look too kindly on having those folks housed in our state.
Funny how republicans never have any problems finding enough democrats to support their shitty policies.
“Vast holding facilities” AKA concentration camps. They still mince their words, but their actions speak clear.
I swear to god, these people see The Holocaust as a blueprint.
I’m not even convinced that the people who are contesting actually give a shit. Just probably a bunch of NIMBYs who don’t want to be around minorities.
Wait until they are almost done, and then burn them to the ground. After a while, no insurance company will cover them. This is the same reason that I see no issue with vandalizing Teslas, as long as the owners are not hurt.
Which Christian sect is the right one, asking for a friend?
The one with Supply Side Jesus.
Trick question?
The one with the universal love stuff
Would you believe anyone who told you?
Because that would be the actual problem.
An almighty God doesn’t need humans or churches to spread the story.
“Did I say death camps? I meant happy camps.”
Lmao, the MAGAs lose to the ultimate buzz killer, the NIMBYs!
The only good NIMBYs can do
Well your choice folks at this point. Die on your feet or on your knees.
