• foodandart@lemmy.zip
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    There are many things around the world that can be called into question, but the one definitive item in this world I will hold to - no matter how much the pot of obfuscation is stirred - is that Donald John Trump is a child fucker and sex trafficker.

    That is ONE thing I know about the world and I will stick to it.

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      Yes, but also, how can you not question a society that allows this to happen, not once or twice, but constantly over the span of a decade, while the pieces that float to the top only get worse and worse.

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        I’m not surprised at all because there is literally no atrocity that will convince an American to not vote for their favored candidate.

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        This society has been taken down a very dark path for decades and it started with conservative media - first talk radio and then cable “news” and now internet podcasts and the like.

        When I’ve had people my own age come to me and start on about hidden cities at the center of the earth and all of the sudden go off about it as if! they didn’t get the exact same Earth Science lessons in the SAME schools at the same time as I did…

        I really have to ask:

        1. “Did you hit your head recently and suffer brain damage?”

        2. “Why did you become so gullible?”

        And finally,

        1. “When did you decide to opt in to superstition, ignorance and New Age, New Earth woo woo shit - the SAME shit that you and I BOTH made fun of when we were kids?”

        (When did you decide to get old, boring and stupid, basically…)

        It’s the Karl Rove effect in action, I guess. The conservatives just spew so much shit that the rubes that can’t shut them off for the terror of losing their made up “identity” just go soft in the head and believe lies that 30 years ago, they would not have.

        Repeated lies… decades of them. Warping reality and making fearful people cling to the lies.

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          That’s exactly the effect I’ve noticed. Add in the inability to admit you’ve been wrong, and instead make even more insane claims to support the stupid lies you believe, and baby you got a stew going.

          I don’t even know how we counter it now, there are cracks in the vineer, sure, some people recognising the mistake in fomoing radical right wing ideas, the Epstein and ICE stuff in particular. But unless there are real steps taken to deradicalize media apparatuses, I don’t know, we’re still going in the wrong direction until the common folk can wrestle back power from those who benefit from us toppling our own best interests.

          The culture war was all a psyop, meant to drive wedges between folk who had more in common with each other than the ones driving the wedges. The whole system of cruelty in healthcare, the cynicism it takes to witness school shootings and shrug, the pleasure in revoking basic humanity, all of it is in the benefit of monsters.

          Even if we can wrestle back the narrative, even tomorrow, it would still take a very long time, and the ones stirring the chaos have so much power and so many resources that they can keep playing this game, while you and I are just struggling to keep our heads above the water.