• FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world
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    There is a need.

    For billionaires, who need a useful idiot they can control. It’s why they’re normalizing electing presidents whose brains do not function properly.

    The 350,000,000 who are not billionaires have no power whatsoever when it comes to selecting the president. Hell, in 2016 a five-minute meeting with a presidential candidate at a party convention cost upwards of $400,000.

    Our only power is local.

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    He’s mentioned 38,000 times so far. There’s still supposed to be a metric fuck-ton of files left to release

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      he is not mentioned 38000 times. this number comes from new york times article, where they count everything related to him, including locations.

      so someone sending email to someone saying “orange cheeto with melania and donald junior will be spending christmas at mar-a-lago, said eric” counts as five for that count.

      also the files contain collection of tips from the fbi hotlines, and his name there also counts and when you use the number 38000 as a proof, these tips are direct opposite, they are something that needs to be proved first.

      not saying he isn’t asshole, but people should know what they are saying.

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      The weird thing is that it’s been for sure as soon as he bragged about it in 2005, but the allegations of him walking in on teen locker rooms are from the 90s. His whole adult life has been a stream of constant sexual misconduct allegations, and now centrists are starting to clutch their pearls like this is a new development.

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        tthe locker walk is probably the most “mildest” evidence of how him being a deviant. him raping his wife because he got mad at her for telling him to get plastic surgery for his hair transplant.

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    Other than epstein himself, who else is named 38.000 times in the documents? And why would someone be named 38000 times in crime related documents?

    Now that the newly released parts of the epstein files are getting worse and worse, why do people think someone named 38000 times so far in those files to be still suitable as a president?

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      because republicans support pedophiles, too be honest alot of them are complicit or have Sexual deviants themselves. i once followed a bunch of asian tubers that turned maga over covid times, 1 of them mentioned jokingly, he got an urge of “cannabalism” when he saw anatomy books,a nd the other one couldnt stop make pedopheliac/fredian slip/comments about a 4year hypothetical victim

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    Lol why are we stopping at 25 years? This went on well beyond that in duration let alone how much worse it is than any other crimes including politicians in written history.

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    From what I can tell, the files talk about the Epstein monsters tearing down the fabric of our society so they can steal it and rule over us. The chaos is the point, I would say it’s even a benefit for them to have such an obvious heinous piece of shit in charge of everything, the more he’s in the files the better for them, it urges the collapse even more when it calls to question everything we know about the world around us

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      There are many things around the world that can be called into question, but the one definitive item in this world I will hold to - no matter how much the pot of obfuscation is stirred - is that Donald John Trump is a child fucker and sex trafficker.

      That is ONE thing I know about the world and I will stick to it.

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        Yes, but also, how can you not question a society that allows this to happen, not once or twice, but constantly over the span of a decade, while the pieces that float to the top only get worse and worse.

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          I’m not surprised at all because there is literally no atrocity that will convince an American to not vote for their favored candidate.

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          This society has been taken down a very dark path for decades and it started with conservative media - first talk radio and then cable “news” and now internet podcasts and the like.

          When I’ve had people my own age come to me and start on about hidden cities at the center of the earth and all of the sudden go off about it as if! they didn’t get the exact same Earth Science lessons in the SAME schools at the same time as I did…

          I really have to ask:

          1. “Did you hit your head recently and suffer brain damage?”

          2. “Why did you become so gullible?”

          And finally,

          1. “When did you decide to opt in to superstition, ignorance and New Age, New Earth woo woo shit - the SAME shit that you and I BOTH made fun of when we were kids?”

          (When did you decide to get old, boring and stupid, basically…)

          It’s the Karl Rove effect in action, I guess. The conservatives just spew so much shit that the rubes that can’t shut them off for the terror of losing their made up “identity” just go soft in the head and believe lies that 30 years ago, they would not have.

          Repeated lies… decades of them. Warping reality and making fearful people cling to the lies.

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            That’s exactly the effect I’ve noticed. Add in the inability to admit you’ve been wrong, and instead make even more insane claims to support the stupid lies you believe, and baby you got a stew going.

            I don’t even know how we counter it now, there are cracks in the vineer, sure, some people recognising the mistake in fomoing radical right wing ideas, the Epstein and ICE stuff in particular. But unless there are real steps taken to deradicalize media apparatuses, I don’t know, we’re still going in the wrong direction until the common folk can wrestle back power from those who benefit from us toppling our own best interests.

            The culture war was all a psyop, meant to drive wedges between folk who had more in common with each other than the ones driving the wedges. The whole system of cruelty in healthcare, the cynicism it takes to witness school shootings and shrug, the pleasure in revoking basic humanity, all of it is in the benefit of monsters.

            Even if we can wrestle back the narrative, even tomorrow, it would still take a very long time, and the ones stirring the chaos have so much power and so many resources that they can keep playing this game, while you and I are just struggling to keep our heads above the water.

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    He’s referenced 38,000 times.

    YOU’RE TAKING THEM ALL OUT OF CONTEXT! IT’S AI! IT’S A LIBERAL PLOT! BIDEN! BIDEN DID IT. THE GRAND OLD PEDOPHILES WILL PROTECT HIM!

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        It makes sense if you think everyone has good intentions and won’t smear campaigns to imply their opponents are pedos or anything of the sorts. Which is why it doesn’t make sense because someone will use it that way, especially with the existence of Gen AI. Just look at how Andrew Cuomo used gen AI commercial to make it seem like Mamdani was to blame for 9/11.

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          This is beyond any smear campaign. You act like there was credible evidence that every president before Trump was a pedophile and the public elected them anyway.

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            You might want to read your own title.

            Its not that donald trump is for sure a pedophile. Its that there are 350 million people in the USA and there is no need to make someone where its even a question president .

            Sounds to me like you’re saying you don’t need any evidence because even questioning whether someone is a pedo is enough to invalidate their candidacy.

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              What a weak weak defense of donald trump…name any other candidate that amounts to half of what there is on trump.

              Its sick how intellectually dishonest you are.

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                I wrote a big ass essay on what your words means and how stupid that meaning is, and then I deleted it because I doubt you’d actually read it. If you were that literate you wouldn’t be vehemently defending the stupid shit you wrote.

                How about you pull Trumps head out of your ass and apply your statement to ANY other past or future presidential candidate. Let’s say in the future AOC runs for president and the republicans call her a pedo. Do you think that’s enough to make her unfit to be president? Because that is exactly what your title is saying, that simply by questioning whether she’s a pedo (doesn’t matter how obvious the answer would be) she’d no longer be fit to be president.

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                  Except they did exactly that with biden… youre ill informed and I can only assume a hopeless ideologue.

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      I think they are saying that while it’s not 100% certain he was a pedo (imo it’s 100% but we’ll roll with it) that there are tons of other people to pick who are not implicated as a pedo.

      And… yeah. I mean, obviously, we shouldn’t make pedos presidents, though there are also numerous other things that I think should have disqualified trump, too.

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    I think this is one of those times in history where there’s a strong consensus among the public that he’s a corrupt pedo who needs to be removed from office and face justice, however, that can’t happen because the institutions that are supposed to keep people like him in check are so gutted and corrupted that they’re effectively useless. Congress, federal agencies, the states, and the supreme court are supposed to hold him accountable, but they aren’t because Trump and his cronies control just enough of each of these institutions to paralyze them. That’s kind of fascism works, you lie to people to get into power and then erode every institution to cement yourself there forever.