• Bytemeister@lemmy.world
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    8 days ago

    There was genocide under biden, under obama, under clinton, under reagan, under kennedy

    (Citation needed)

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      8 days ago

      The palestinian genocide for instance has been ongoing since 1948 (and before, but 1948 is of course where it kicked into overdrice) and all the US presidents are complicit in not just aiding it via material and political means, but they could have stopped it because “iSSrael” functionally ceases to exist the moment yankeeland decides to pull the plug.

      The genocide of the indigenous americans is ongoing since before the inception of the liberal regime as it’s own entity. It continues to this day by excluding natives from healthcare, confining them to reserves while simultaneously restricting their access to public infrastructure. Indigenous people needing yankee education in order to gain employment and various other restrictions that get justified in a liberal framework, but practically further the erosion of indigenous culture.

      There are various genocides across the world carried out by the yankee stormtroopers more directly in places like Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Libya and some more indirectly by aiding terrorist groups and regimes like saudi arabia, al-qaeda, various african terrorist orgs meant to destabilise the region and break it open for western exploitation.

      readsettlers.org

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        8 days ago

        Summary : there are genocides being done somewhere else by someone else, must be the fault of the President of the USA.

        Americans did genocide the native people of this continent. Must be Obama’s fault in 2008.

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          Summary : there are genocides being done somewhere else by someone else, must be the fault of the President of the USA and somehow USA still sells arms to someone in somewhere else because business is business.

          We only sell the guns (even to terrorist organizations), tanks and military jets, so… we are not responsible for the guns being used for bad things…

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            8 days ago

            We sell guns to a lot of people. Should we be the world police and say what they can do with the stuff they bought from us? How do you feel about the US limiting the range and targets of the HIMARS systems we sent to Ukraine early in the war?

            For the record, I absolutely agree that any aid provided by the USA to Israel should be conditional, and we should severely limit the types of weapons and systems sent there.

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          8 days ago

          What did Obama do to stop it? You do understand the indigenous genocide is ongoing right? What did Obama do to stop the genocide of the palestinians? You understand that anything pissrael does can be blamed on the yanks because they’re the ones bankrolling and arming this so-called “country”?

          How does this keep happening: https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/sep/20/kuhner-how-obama-arms-al-qaeda/

          And yes any genocide on this globe that has been carried out for almost the last 100 years has been done with yanKKKee weapons. Where do these terrorists keep getting the funding, the arms?? Why is it that the countries these terrorists keep terrorising end up as US vassals?

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            Ah yes, an opinion piece written by a notably not histrionic or atangonist little right wing radio commentator who became a US citizen in (checks notes) 2016, Jeff Kuhner.

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Kuhner

            You should definitely read the articles and consider the source before you post then as fact.

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              Alright i didn’t have material about a conflict over a decade ago ready at hand, but broken clock and all that. The dude was right about what Obama’s action will lead to as we can see with the benefit of hindsight. Obamas failure to help Assad, but arm other extremists (al-Nusra) because they were fighting both ISIL and Assad and help them by drone bombing weddings, even though they had no real path for defeating both lead to ISIL becoming stronger and better armed. Thank god Assad prevailed I would say, but look at the dude currently head of state of syria. Which gives us the sad sad opportunity to see both, not just what happened due to Obamas I’m-playing-both-sides failing, but also what would have happened if he succeeded. (Edit: I replaced the wikipedia link with a link to an article by the grayzone)

              Syria is to Obama, what Libya is to the Clintons, what Ukraine is to the Bidens.

              And that still leaves my point about Obama failing to stop the genocide of palestinians and indigenous americans, even though he could have, completely unaddressed. But of course you would not focus on that, or the facts of Obamas foreign policy, but attack the source. Because you either know I’m right, or don’t know anything about Obamas foreign policy.

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                8 days ago

                Thank god Assad prevailed I would say

                Just lead with this next time and let people really know who you are.

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                    8 days ago

                    Good job using false choice to condition your support of Assad, the guy that was using to chemical weapons on his own people.

                    And to think you bitch about a US President allowing weapons to be sold to someone doing a genocide, while you openly support someone who was actually commiting genocide. 11/10 mental gymnastics there.

                    So, should the US be the world police or not?