We might actually have Republicans willing to vote on issues involving the Epstein files, and the reach and funding of ICE and these people are…(checks notes) are wasting time on something no republican will even look at.
These people don’t want to do the work. They need to be primaried.
I’m all for trans rights but right now this is just a fucking puppet show.
Trans folks, especially teens and kids, need to see someone in power fighting for them. It’s necessary to have some hope to avoid suicide. So it is good in that regard
However for myself, I do not trust the democrats to actually follow through on any trans protections. It feels disingenuous. Why didn’t they go to bat for us before the election? Why is newsom spouting anti-trans rhetoric? It feels like theater, remind the alphabet to not get too radicalized and actually throw off our oppressors
Jayapal and Markey are both long-time progressives without presidential ambitions, so I actually trust that they’re sincere on this one. I don’t know anything about Jacobs.
Any centrists like Newsom who think they might get the mythical moderate Republican vote by throwing trans people under the bus? I agree, I don’t trust an inch
This whole thing will just shine negative attention from state-controlled media about dems trying to do a terror or some bullshit, when we should have the entirety of the Democratic “opposition” doing what they can to remove these obvious criminals and thieves from power, then we can actually introduce legislation that has a chance of being written into law.
I cannot imagine what on Earth they’re thinking. It’s great if it helps some hopeful young trans kids who… closely follow Democrats… but the reality is this kind of legislation feels like a performance designed to make it look like they’re doing something, without any actual plan to make it work.
I mean holy shit, we had the longest government shutdown in history over HEALTHCARE and the dems caved and the GOP raped us in the ass for it.
There is also a massive, growing sentiment against ICE and immigration enforcement that have brought out millions of people to march in the streets. Where the FUCK is the capitalization on this momentum? Oh yeah, same place they safely stored all the momentum from BLM and No Kings.
I can. They’re deathly afraid of another 2024. In 2024, they were reminded that you can’t take your base for granted. Kamala tried to appeal to moderate Republicans and through a lot of progressives under the bus. They’re afraid of a repeat.
And a lot of progressives are at risk of severe demoralization if Democrats backpedal on trans rights. First, there’s trans people themselves, who are about 1% of the population. But then you have supportive family and allies. And crucially, trans people are vastly overrepresented among Democratic party volunteers and nonprofit groups. Trans people often can’t help but be involved in politics, as their existence is a political issue. If Democrats throw trans folks under the bus, they’re at real risk of losing some of their most passionate and dedicated volunteers and donors.
This action is meant to speak to the progressive base. It says, “we hear you. We see you. We are not abandoning you to the wolves.”
Does it have any hope of passing now? No. Is it a performance? Quite possibly. But then again, all of politics is a performance.
Yeah, even if these particular dems have a progressive track record, this act seems performative. Not only is it doomed to fail, even if it miraculously passes and becomes law (which would require the president’s signature or else a supermajority to override), clearly the current administration isn’t respecting the bill of right that we currently already have enshrined in the constitution, so what difference would it honestly make? There’s a better time for it, and it’s when Dems have a trifecta.
Right now, it just seems like virtue signaling to make up for the failures of Democratic leadership to organize effectively around resisting the maga agenda. It’s damage control/PR.
Although, one good side effect leading up to the primaries is that it might force Democrats to go on the record either for or against it, which is helpful information for the public and may boost the performance of progressives.
If that’s their intention, then it’s a certified boss move.
I feel like pandering leads to more hopelessness when nothing meaningful ever changes — but that’s just me. Not to say that this is pandering, but it will be functionally if nothing comes of it.
Let them be alienated. Trans rights are human rights, and they’re non-negotiable. Trans people are such a small minority, our rights depend on cis allies being vocal advocates, even when it isn’t easy. Social progress has never happened by backing away from an issue conservatives are mad about and waiting for them to change their minds and come around.
The bill will go nowhere, and we all know that, including the sponsors. It’s pointless, just some idpol nonsense.
It’s a divisive issue that will alienate people from the party at a time when you hope they’re going to run on defunding ICE and prosecutions for Trump officials.
They aren’t going to do either of those things, so they have to seem like they’re Less Evil™️. This just further dehumanizes turns trans people, turning them into political footballs and you fall for it eagerly
I hope that’s your view of the Democrats introducing this bill right now, and not your view of the fight for trans people’s rights. Fighting for trans people and for immigrants are absolutely the front lines of the battle against fascism. Everyone lives behind those lines and everyone’s freedom depends on pushing those front lines forwards.
People who are alienated by me having rights deserve a fucking wall. Doesn’t matter if that’s rights we all have, or rights only some have due to being an oppressed minority.
I don’t want these nazis being my neighbors after this. I want to fucking hunt them like the collaborators they are. I want them dead like they want me dead.
These people have crossed the fucking Rubicon as far as I’m concerned.
Anyone who is afraid of talking about this issue is gonna do jack-shit about ICE. They’re just gonna keep giving them more and more funding and act surprised when they do they same things they’ve been doing, but now with more agents and more weapons.
I vehemently defend trans rights. Was kneed in the head by a cop at a protest for trans rights. But, I agree. Democunts are doing more identity politics **, rather than even attempt to stop the fascism.
** trans rights are not identity politics. The selective weaponization of trans rights in this moment, is.
Edit: to be clear, THIS is the exact reason you and me need to join our local lefty group. I guarantee there is one near you.
We might actually have Republicans willing to vote on issues involving the Epstein files, and the reach and funding of ICE and these people are…(checks notes) are wasting time on something no republican will even look at.
These people don’t want to do the work. They need to be primaried.
I’m all for trans rights but right now this is just a fucking puppet show.
Yep, and this is exactly why they’re wasting time on it.
Trans folks, especially teens and kids, need to see someone in power fighting for them. It’s necessary to have some hope to avoid suicide. So it is good in that regard
However for myself, I do not trust the democrats to actually follow through on any trans protections. It feels disingenuous. Why didn’t they go to bat for us before the election? Why is newsom spouting anti-trans rhetoric? It feels like theater, remind the alphabet to not get too radicalized and actually throw off our oppressors
Jayapal and Markey are both long-time progressives without presidential ambitions, so I actually trust that they’re sincere on this one. I don’t know anything about Jacobs.
Any centrists like Newsom who think they might get the mythical moderate Republican vote by throwing trans people under the bus? I agree, I don’t trust an inch
If they’re sincere, they’re stupid.
This whole thing will just shine negative attention from state-controlled media about dems trying to do a terror or some bullshit, when we should have the entirety of the Democratic “opposition” doing what they can to remove these obvious criminals and thieves from power, then we can actually introduce legislation that has a chance of being written into law.
I cannot imagine what on Earth they’re thinking. It’s great if it helps some hopeful young trans kids who… closely follow Democrats… but the reality is this kind of legislation feels like a performance designed to make it look like they’re doing something, without any actual plan to make it work.
I mean holy shit, we had the longest government shutdown in history over HEALTHCARE and the dems caved and the GOP raped us in the ass for it.
There is also a massive, growing sentiment against ICE and immigration enforcement that have brought out millions of people to march in the streets. Where the FUCK is the capitalization on this momentum? Oh yeah, same place they safely stored all the momentum from BLM and No Kings.
I can. They’re deathly afraid of another 2024. In 2024, they were reminded that you can’t take your base for granted. Kamala tried to appeal to moderate Republicans and through a lot of progressives under the bus. They’re afraid of a repeat.
And a lot of progressives are at risk of severe demoralization if Democrats backpedal on trans rights. First, there’s trans people themselves, who are about 1% of the population. But then you have supportive family and allies. And crucially, trans people are vastly overrepresented among Democratic party volunteers and nonprofit groups. Trans people often can’t help but be involved in politics, as their existence is a political issue. If Democrats throw trans folks under the bus, they’re at real risk of losing some of their most passionate and dedicated volunteers and donors.
This action is meant to speak to the progressive base. It says, “we hear you. We see you. We are not abandoning you to the wolves.”
Does it have any hope of passing now? No. Is it a performance? Quite possibly. But then again, all of politics is a performance.
Yeah, even if these particular dems have a progressive track record, this act seems performative. Not only is it doomed to fail, even if it miraculously passes and becomes law (which would require the president’s signature or else a supermajority to override), clearly the current administration isn’t respecting the bill of right that we currently already have enshrined in the constitution, so what difference would it honestly make? There’s a better time for it, and it’s when Dems have a trifecta.
Right now, it just seems like virtue signaling to make up for the failures of Democratic leadership to organize effectively around resisting the maga agenda. It’s damage control/PR.
Although, one good side effect leading up to the primaries is that it might force Democrats to go on the record either for or against it, which is helpful information for the public and may boost the performance of progressives.
If that’s their intention, then it’s a certified boss move.
I feel like pandering leads to more hopelessness when nothing meaningful ever changes — but that’s just me. Not to say that this is pandering, but it will be functionally if nothing comes of it.
They can do more than one thing at the same time. Every bit helps. Relentlessly.
No this alienates a bunch of people because it’s a hot-button culture war issue
Why is this divisive but anti imperialism isn’t?
Let them be alienated. Trans rights are human rights, and they’re non-negotiable. Trans people are such a small minority, our rights depend on cis allies being vocal advocates, even when it isn’t easy. Social progress has never happened by backing away from an issue conservatives are mad about and waiting for them to change their minds and come around.
The bill will go nowhere, and we all know that, including the sponsors. It’s pointless, just some idpol nonsense.
It’s a divisive issue that will alienate people from the party at a time when you hope they’re going to run on defunding ICE and prosecutions for Trump officials.
They aren’t going to do either of those things, so they have to seem like they’re Less Evil™️. This just further dehumanizes turns trans people, turning them into political footballs and you fall for it eagerly
I hope that’s your view of the Democrats introducing this bill right now, and not your view of the fight for trans people’s rights. Fighting for trans people and for immigrants are absolutely the front lines of the battle against fascism. Everyone lives behind those lines and everyone’s freedom depends on pushing those front lines forwards.
People who are alienated by me having rights deserve a fucking wall. Doesn’t matter if that’s rights we all have, or rights only some have due to being an oppressed minority.
I don’t want these nazis being my neighbors after this. I want to fucking hunt them like the collaborators they are. I want them dead like they want me dead.
These people have crossed the fucking Rubicon as far as I’m concerned.
Anyone who is afraid of talking about this issue is gonna do jack-shit about ICE. They’re just gonna keep giving them more and more funding and act surprised when they do they same things they’ve been doing, but now with more agents and more weapons.
This is your brain on idpol 🤷
What meaningful change do you think they’re gonna make other than simply not voting on funding at all?
I vehemently defend trans rights. Was kneed in the head by a cop at a protest for trans rights. But, I agree. Democunts are doing more identity politics **, rather than even attempt to stop the fascism.
** trans rights are not identity politics. The selective weaponization of trans rights in this moment, is.
Edit: to be clear, THIS is the exact reason you and me need to join our local lefty group. I guarantee there is one near you.
Bingo. This is more effort than they ever put into making abortion a guaranteed right
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