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      Oh he’s way past that point already. Even the most horrible of public executions would not be punishment enough.

      Let him burn in hell forever, if hell indeed exists.

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      I’ve been saying that cutting USAID and the nearly million deaths that followed in the subsequent months as a direct result of cutting a program that as much as a couple of his planned ballrooms, should get him hanged slowly at the hague.

      Out of everything he’s done, this along with rolling back environmental protections will have caused the most harm and suffering to humanity and these are the things getting the least attention.

      Imagine having the power to ruin the lives of countless millions of living souls and doing it for no other reason than to prove how “not woke” you are and to add another several cents per share to your donor’s investments.

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      Nixon and Reagan both conspired with hostile foreign governments to win elections and we let both of those guys off the hook. Why would this be different?

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          I don’t see a whole lot of lesson-learning going on. Except by those who have been taught that when they break laws there isn’t punishment

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            The POLITICIANS don’t seem to have learned anything, at least the MAGA comedy act of Schmuck & Jeffries haven’t. They might as well be working for them.

            But the Citizens have. We know that the Dems have done nearly nothing to protect us from the MAGA scourge, and we are likely to have to do it ourselves.

            But some are awake, and others are waking. We may yet be able to force the Dems to do their jobs, and fight for us. How the Dems respond to the inevitable MAGA screaming when they get crushed in the Midterms will tell the tale. If Schmuck & Jeffries let them get away with stealing this election, too, like they did with 2024, them we’ll have to take matters into our own hands.

            And for their fecklessness, our elected Dems will find themselves nearly as big an enemy as MAGA.

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        Different?

        Yeah. The ruling class, and the oligarchs who own them, have made it abundantly clear they will burn the whole system down rather than allow one of their own to be held accountable.

        See also: Biden 2020/AG Garland

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          They need the current system in place way more than we do. They benefit greatly by this system, we don’t. They may THREATEN to burn it down, but they won’t. They worked too hard, and they benefit too much by it, to let it go.

          Before they’ll destroy the system that has made them wealthy, and will continue to make them wealthy, they’ll surrender, and live to fight another day.

          They’ll kill MAGA before they’ll kill the THEIR economy.

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            They are using the dissolution of the USSR as their model.

            The current system transfers wealth upwards, but they will be happy to dismantle it if it means they can seize control of all the national infrastructure, resources, and the machinery of State directly and permanently.

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          If we read of one man robbed, or murdered, or killed by accident, or one house burned, or one vessel wrecked, or one steamboat blown up, or one cow run over on the Western Railroad, or one mad dog killed, or one lot of grasshoppers in the winter, - we need never read of another. One is enough. If you are acquainted with the principle, what do you care for a myriad instances and applications?

          -Thoreau, Walden

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      💯

      But instead it will probably get him more adoration from his base.

      Who am I kidding? It’s not probably, it’s definitely.

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        For now, foreign wars are a slow burn on popularity, for now he will be popular, before too long people will hate him for it, he will be gone soon anyway though he already doesn’t know what is going on, or he wouldn’t be betraying his america first bullshit.

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          And they’ll just latch on to the next toad creature that comes along, they always do, they won’t all suddenly un-fascist themselves.

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            Oh yeah, the party’s base is radicalized, and the establishment are all in on fascist dictatorship time. It’s just a matter of who wins the succession fight, and if they can hold it, and steal it if need be, with their new leader during the fight. Vance won’t get it, someone will take it from him.

            The project 2025 people, the religious right, their business dickheads, and their assorted partizans are all in on it, anyone with loyalty to country, and elections, over the party, has been purged after they gave themselves away in 2020, and none of them were purged, not in government and bureaucracy, after 2020 either because Biden let them all get away with it, so noble to let captured agencies fail in their statutory duties in the most basic of their missions, preventing the republic from being killed in all but name with elections fixed, but I digress.

            The only way out is popular reform by a strong opposition leader that organizes the opposition, and knows how to build and run a political machine, and we won’t seemingly have that, so Republicans get to carry on their shit show it appears.

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      Pedos or not there is no way the USA would stay out of waging new wars either way, it’s literally its bread and butter and can’t exist without it. The machine is getting itchy, it needs blood, that simple.