• Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip
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      In the '20s, people considered Irish immigrants not to be white. It’s a meaningless label that people subjectively change the definition of just to other those they don’t like

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        Irish people are like physically some of the whitest people in existence. All the Celts, Germanics are up there, very fair skin, starved of vitamin d for ages presumably they developed that skin to produce more when they did get sun.

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        It’s not about white or brown. It’s easier for them to get support to abuse the brown people, it doesn’t mean white people are safe, or they won’t be working to hurt them. In fact everything they are doing is getting license to hurt white people en masse in the united states proper, while they steal elections, and throw protesters in camps, with courts unable to issue nationwide injunctions now.

        That said, the Iranians are basically white, without the head gear they would fit right in, Iran means Aryan by the way. From being settled by horse tribes from the steppes of Asia around 1,500 bc,

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      It was never about skin colour though, was it?

      disclaimer for people who don't like to interpret internet comments charitably

      (even if it was, that wouldn’t make racism acceptable ofc)

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        I love that disclaimer. I feel like I need to put it on everything. People seem quite incapable of separating descriptive and normative statements on here.

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          Sometimes I feel like people have misinterpreted all my social critiques as advocacy for the things I was critiquing.

          Like I’ll point something out, say “Society tends to do such-and-such,” implying, “and that’s wrong,” but what people hear instead is “as it should.”

          Like, I could explicitly state “and that’s wrong” all the time, but sometimes that would get a “no shit” reaction, or possibly come off as performative.

          Sometimes there’s just no winning…