Following the events in Iran, Alexandre Boulerice, NDP Foreign Affairs Critic, issued the following statement:
"The NDP strongly condemns the American and Israeli bombings of Iran. This is a dangerous escalation that risks dragging the entire region into a major conflict. The oppressive and bloody regime of the Ayatollahs is reprehensible, but its nuclear program must be managed through the United Nations and the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA). In fact, its Director General, Mr. Grossi, recently indicated that he was working with the Iranian administration to resume inspections and reiterated that there could be no solution other than a diplomatic one.
The NDP deplores the Carney government’s decision to blindly support this dangerous venture by Israel and Donald Trump’s administration. We want Canada to be a voice for diplomacy, peace, and international law."
If/when this school bombing gets certified Carny is going to look like a right fucking tool for his endorsement of Israel and its lapdog.
This is a much better worded statement from the NDP.
Unfortunately Carney is stuck in a harder position. The NDP is free to make statements like this because they have no real significance, but Carney is still trying to thread the needle with the Americans on various trade matters so he can’t go straight to negative statements.
I don’t like it, this is the first time I’ve found myself seriously disagreeing with something Carney said, but at the same time I can’t really fault him too badly. Ultimately it’s more important what governments do rather than what they say, so we’ll see if Canada continues to stay firmly out of this one.
This. Diplomacy with an unhinged neighbour is taking steps to decouple, while giving trump the ego stroke he looks for.
If he can talk about the issues of American hegemony at Davos, he can hold true to that word in a statement like this.
Oh no, the U.S. is gonna negatively affect trade with us… as if Trump isn’t literally out there threatening to abandon CUSMA, a deal that he made in his first term to replace NAFTA.
If their word never seems to matter, why should we hold ourselves to their standards?
Because we don’t want Donald to have a fit and send troups, he’s currently invaiding his second country this term and I doubt he’ll be stoping anytime soon.
Why bother trying to negotiate with the Americans? Iran was actively in peace talks with the US and Israel when this bombing happened. It further demonstrates that there’s no point negotiating with trump, he’s a bad faith negotiator
Agree. Why justify this type of incursion when we have literally been threatened?
“Negotiation” can be an attempt to come to a deal, or it can be an attempt to keep Trump distracted until some different jangly keys come along to occupy his attention.
He could have made a simple statement urging calm and restraint. No need to take sides.
Not with the isreal lobby pulling the world leaders strings. Could use Donald to attack Canada for not helping them, you’ve seen isreal lash out at those who don’t support them.
Nah that’s a silly antisemitic trope, refuted easily by the simple fact that Canada recognized Palestine a few months ago.
It is not antisemetic trope progaganda. Recognition means nothing when you deny that occupation and genocide is real, when you do nothing against occupied land being sold in canadian synaguoges, whrn you have idf soldiers speaking in canadian schools and ehen you deny paledtinians right under internstional laws like having the right to an army and the right to return .
He is even lying about the embargo on arms to israel
Saying that Israel controls the world’s governments is an antisemitic trope that is entirely unnecessary for condemning Israeli apartheid and the Gaza genocide. I brought up the recognition of Palestine not to say that Canada has a pro-palestinine policy, but to make the simple point that our policy is not controlled by Israel (if we were, we would not have done it).
Does there exist a big pro-israel bias in western mainstream politics? Yes. But that is not *control". Control implies absolute power on the part of the controller and lack of agency on the part of the controlled.
No it is not . Israel do not represent all jews and will never do. Let start for the start even before the creation of the state Zionists who create the state killed multiple jews they ever directly ordered the assassination of an anti Zionist jew journalist named Jacob Israël de Haan. Many jews at that time even rejected the idea of a Jewish state is necessary especially not one created by ethnically cleansing the local population . Israel did sterilize Ethiopian jews unvoluntary, you can also see how they call some other jews with the term self hating jews and you can see videos of Israeli police attacking anti occupation jews
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2013-01-27/ty-article/.premium/ethiopians-fooled-into-birth-control/0000017f-f512-d044-adff-f7fb92c30000
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/cw6NWdg-nT0
So based on all of the facts saying Israel control a country is not antisemitic although I disagree with those people who believe it
Words with no action and without acknowledging the nature of the conflict is called hypocrisy my friend. Everybody know that Palestine is occupied and the nature of occupation is a settler colonialism one so why did it take 78 years to finally pretend to support recognition of Palestine. It is a shame that many got fooled by politicians words. A state with not all it’s right that international laws give them is not a real state . Carney is saying that the victims of settler colonialism should not have an army to defend itself when it is free but Israel have just to return part of the west bank and nothing else.
Netenyahu as the head of the government decided to put extremists like ben gvir in his government. Netenyahu as the head of the government is the one who is approving more settlements aka colonies so he bring more settlers that are harrasing, beating and killing west bankers so the sanctions just be on Netenyahu himself and the state of Israel. Carney did not ask to investigate the selling of west bank occupied land in Canadian synagogues All of this show that Carney is lying about opposing settlements
Here 18 years of documentation of Israel crimes by an israeli human right organization
https://www.youtube.com/@btselem/videos
Pretty presumptuous of you to assume that someone pointing out antisemitism to you needs a lesson on all the ways the genocidal Israeli apartheid regime is a genocidal apartheid regime.
Beyond that I’ve nothing to add to what I previously wrote. It’s pretty clear.
Here’s the thing though: Israel would not exist without the US, but the US would exist without Israel.
So, the idea that it’s some (((Israeli puppet masters))) controlling the US, rather than the US being ultimately in charge, is indeed an antisemitic trope — one which we are seeing pushed by US far-right influencers who, wouldn’t you know it, are rabid antisemites.
Edit: I do agree however that Canada’s recognition of the Palestinian state was pretty hollow
Conflating antisemitism with antizionism is what is realty antisemitic. Israel have Muslims and Christians who some even agree with the policies of occupation and are joining the occupation force. So the idea that saying Israel is doing this is antisemites is some BS .
Are you denying that aipac is not influencing congressman and put pressure on them to agree with Israel policies of settler colonialism? Do you really think there is no similar lobby in Canada that try to shut down anti occupation supporters?
I agree israel do not control the USA it is about serving their own perspective evil interests but people who don’t see that are not necessarly antisemitic but just naive and think usa support for israel is unconditionally for no reasons
I am not conflating antisemitism with anti-zionism. My point is that Trump and his cabinet (and the Dem leadership) are Zionists. Earlier you implied that Trump is having his “strings pulled”. All I am saying is, that’s not the power dynamic here.
Edit: sorry — the strings pulled comment was someone else. But it was the context for my reply
Hmm true, maybe they were making nukes then… I seriously doubt at this stage carney would want to work with the US on anything with Donald around,
He could have said nothing. It would have been cowardly, but slightly less so.
Yeah this is my thought too…like if you’re so scared that you can’t say what you think is right, fine…but keep your damn trap shut and quit licking boots.
Unless he actually believes in this…
How the fuck you think you know what he thinks? These types of comments are measured well, not just blurted out.
I think he’s not a moron, and so he doesn’t actually think it’s good for the US to attack Iran. Of course it’s measured, he wouldn’t say “rah rah, go trump go” if he didn’t think he should. But he thinks he should because of cowardice.
I get it, but why not just bide his time rather than support an illegal action.