If we can’t be bothered to vote in the primaries, wjy would anyone believe us that a progressive candidate would somehow lure millions more to vote?

As I know the comments will be, uhhh, fun, I’ve turned off reply notifications.

  • circuitfarmer@lemmy.world
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    This.

    Not voting or voting for a third party hands a win to people you don’t want winning. The system is not fair, at all – but that doesn’t mean we should operate in a way we know will lead to a bad outcome. We have plenty of evidence that third parties in the US don’t really make a dent, but they do sway elections (and generally not how you want). The rest is idealism.

    It’s also a good example of why single-issue voting means you’ll almost always get more collateral damage, even if you get representation you want on that specific issue.

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      Trouble is, sometimes voting for either of the two major parties hands a vote to people whom you don’t want winning, and you know it will lead to a bad outcome: The march toward some flavor of authoritarianism has been obvious for decades. One major party welcomes it, and the other major party doesn’t not welcome it. While the system isn’t fair, neither is life, and sometimes the system itself is so flawed that it falls apart even if you play by its unfair rules.

      So what was the plan? Democrats win every election forever and ever, amen? The party was cooperating with the Republicans, actively or passively, to put the pieces of an authoritarian system into place. Was that supposed to be fine because Democrats would always be in control of the machinery of repression? Despite the long history of U.S. voters ping-ponging between parties?

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                It’s an open-book test. You don’t have to memorize anything. Everyone else has this figured out.

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                    You’re giving excuses that make no sense. No one is saying to vote a straight party ticket. Do your research, take notes on the candidates, go vote. Why are you inventing this memorization nonsense?

                    You’ll find that, while each candidate can have positions that you agree with and that you don’t, but you probably have a pretty good idea which issues matter most to you, so you can focus on those issues. If they say things you agree with about things you care about, and they don’t seem like liars, vote for them. You’ll probably find one party’s platform aligns with your preferences, and you only need to keep track of the ones not in that party if you really want to memorize the candidates. Or, find an organization you agree with and start from their recommendations.

                    But just bring your notes to vote, if you’re allowed. My state is 100% mail-in voting, so I can fill out the ballot as I research. How many candidates are in your elections that is causing you to panic like this?

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                So what am I supposed to do, just vote blue down the line?

                Well, I don’t know there, friend, do you want to vote for fascists, or do you want to vote for the non-fascists?

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                  Aight, toss me a list of who is running for what office in Mississippi, cuz I’m subscribed to our congressman and still haven’t gotten such a list.

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          Fair enough, I assumed LLMs used the markdown double dash for their em dash, mixed with the AI profile pic, and general bad taste of a slop comment, I judged too quickly.

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            There are (rare though they may be) people like me who actually know the ALT code for em-dash by heart and have used it for years long before AI. Thanks to people now just assuming I’ve switched to double-dashes mostly.

            • 🌞 Alexander Daychilde 🌞@lemmy.world
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              The compose key exists, too (and wincompose for Windows users) — makes it easy to use. And all sorts of other symbols like ¿Por qué no los dos? and I can uſe the old long-‘s’ character eaſily… (and that’s a real ellipsis)

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                Holy shit… I had no clue that wincompose exists. For years, I’ve wanted exactly this. I’m so glad that someone had the same idea, skill, and time to create this. Thank you for sharing!

                • 🌞 Alexander Daychilde 🌞@lemmy.world
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                  <3 <3 <3 The only symbol I’ve wanted that apparently doesn’t have a sequence is for pi. And I know you can add sequences in Linux, but haven’t been bothered to figure out if/how with wincompose. heh.

                  Have fun! Oh, and one bit that took me a long time to find but I use all the time; ① - numbers in circles, a rare three-character sequence - parentheses surrounding a number i.e. (1) :) (numbers ① through ㊿ exist)

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                And Mac has alt - for –, and shift alt - for —. We use the English (Macintosh) keyboard layout on our Linux boxen, so we’ve got that too!

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            You’re welcome to respond to the “slop comment” if you can actually come up with something substantive. Otherwise, it’s not a good look.

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              What is there to reply to? This conversation has been had a million times here, mixed with what I assumed was an em dash and an AI profile pic, sorry if it’s ‘not a good look’ to call out the slop.

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                What slop? You think a nearly 3-year old account is AI generated?

                Just because you’ve never seen an em-dash before AI doesn’t mean that em-dash = AI. And btw, I never even used one.

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                  The slop is the comment parroting the same trite conversation that’s been had over and over about lesser evils voting. Might not be AI slop, but I didn’t put it past you when I saw the pfp. If all you have to say at this point in time is about you’re vote blue no matter who strategy, your comment is slop, and I’m done explaining this.

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                    You literally had a whole thread about AI slop that wasn’t there and now you’re trying to save face by changing your own goalposts.

                    Good chat.

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          I am not prepared for the olympics level mental gymnastics necessary to explain participating in the US election system.

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            I can’t remember who the fuck all is who in the first place, aside from the obvious culprits like Turnip.

            Nominal aphasia sucks yo, how do people even have memory banks to remember all the politicians they’ve probably never met in the first place?

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              Well isn’t that the beauty of it? “Vote blue no matter who.”

              It is easy to remember, you don’t need names or complicated things like policies and stances…

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                No, that’s not the beauty of it at all. In fact, I find it rather ugly, ignorant, and damn near caveman thinking style.

                If I was to vote, it wouldn’t be on a simple color, it would be on each candidates’ values and goals. Sadly I can’t remember every last candidate, so I do not consider myself a well educated potential voter.

                But hey, if folks wanna keep voting on simple colors, well my favorite color is blue. So if it’s so simple, why can’t I just pick up a blue card, write my name and voter info on it, and just submit that?

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                    Again, I’m piss poor with names of people I’ve never spoken with in person. I keep seeing bullshit about this dude Pete H whatever the fuck online, but I don’t know anything about him, whether it’s all just trash memes, whatever his real values are, or what side he’s on.

                    Can you not understand that I’m bad with names, I literally know that, I know I have trouble remembering such things, and make my own best educated decision to like not vote when I can’t remember such shit the next day?

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                  All you really need to know is every red candidate is objectively a worse person and worse for America and the world than any blue candidate. That’s not to say that the blues are particularly good, but if you have the choice of getting punch in the mouth or shot in the face, you choose to live another day.

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                    I choose to not either get punched in the mouth nor shot in the face.

                    Sad, that at this rate, if these are the only two options left, then gimme a knife and I’ll slit my own throat.

                    I do not care to live in a world where peace isn’t an option, but thanks for laying out the terms of red/blue for me.