• oyfrog@lemmy.world
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    “become” implies it was something else to begin with. it started as a cess pool when it allowed slavery to persist past the declaration of independence.

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      Why do you think they wanted independence?

      It was the rich wanting to get more rich from the get go. Everything else was a smoke screen.

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        Agreed, but the reformation of the south was one of many chances our country had to turn things around and start actually practicing equality and democracy properly, and instead the country bent to the racists who wanted stable business. Some ideas just kept repeating for the following century and a half.

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      “We hold these truths to be self evident - that all men are created equal. But when I meet Thomas Jefferson, I’ma compel him to include women in the sequel, work!”.

      Man that lyric slapped hard and I’m just now realizing that if it were the N-word, it’d slap hard but be horribly historically inaccurate, as Angelica Schuyler kept many slaves. As did Thomas Jefferson.

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        Now, Hercules Mulligan, on the other hand…also had slaves. Despite being a founding member of the New York Manumission Society, he also had a slave named Cato who would help him to gather intelligence.

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      Yes in a weird way, I take heart in knowing that America’s politics have been super fucked up for most of its history. I know that sounds odd but most people I know seem to think things have just suddenly turned bad recently. I think maybe they were born during a brief respite is all. And I do think that with the fuller context, the arc of history bends in the right direction, yes, albeit with famous latency.