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    Believe it or not, that’s actually one of the more recent revisions to the training. The military has been training to aim for the dick area because everyone has plates that protect center-mass these days. You cannot effectively move AND have armor that restricts your legs from working.

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    What is that gun‽ It looks like some kinda amalgamation of a bunch of different guns.

    The stock looks like an ak but the magazine and fore end are screaming Turkish shotgun.

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    I’ve seen images of men with their testicles in a tourniquet and they did not look well at all. They weren’t even bleeding that much. It was less of a medical emergency and more of a hobby it seems.

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    That big artery in the inner thigh. … Yeah you can die pretty fast if it gets severed.

    Femoral artery.

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      there’s a similar one on your arm. the one they give you IVs in. fun fact i was getting an IV removed and i had a fairly new RN (first year on the floor but damned competent. third day on my room and we’d gotten to become friendly. i’m pretty sure she had a family member who’d had a port and had been their caregiver or something) and she had just popped the catheter out of my AC. she pressed down with the cotton ball with her other thumb and… missed. GOOOOSH GOOOOSH GOOOOSH GOOOOSH goes my antecubital all over the room and she turns green. runs out of the room as i slowly and calmly (because i am high as balls on the good hospital painkillers) reach over and put some pressure on. about 30 seconds later she comes back in with a big gauze, i have the bleeding stopped and there were five great big red streaks all across the room. And her now that i think about it i am sure i was so embarrassed i couldn’t look her in the eye. I think i traumatized that poor woman. i’m just like “hey” You really can’t control your instincts until you’ve been through it once or twice.

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      A friend of mine got heart surgery through his inner thigh. That artery is huge, so it provides easy access to the heart without needing to go near any organs. It still creeps me out to think about it, on the other hand it is pretty awesome that’s technologically feasible and provides a much safer procedure with a shorter recovery period.

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        I had an arterial stent placed via the femoral artery. Trust me, it’s pretty dang nice having a tiny scar so high on my inner thigh that my hanging balls hide it instead of a huge one on my chest!

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      If the options are “Phillips head fucks shit up” and something not being fucked up by Phillips, assume the thing is about to get fucked.

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      Jfc I hope you’re not serious lol. These are self-defense rounds, meant to break apart inside the attacker or intruder, so you’re not shooting through walls, potentially killing people on the other side.

      Part of a defense training class includes, “know your target and what’s behind it” for a reason

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          These aren’t really that effective compared to a hollow point. They create a big visual in ballistic gel, but in a more realistic medium they act more like an improved FMJ, but still over penetrate badly (which isn’t a good thing in most cases).

          They tend to be recommend as a bear round, where over-penetration is actually valuable and desired.

          The same manufacturer actually makes a deeper cut version that doesn’t over penetrate called the xtreme defender, which is generally still worse than a good hollow point in standard calibers, but can be a good option for weaker calibers like .380, where hollow point under-penetrate.

          however, for 9mm and above, you’re better off with a standard hollow point, which is more effective and far more affordable than the all-copper xtreme rounds.

          Also @sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz @HikingVet@lemmy.ca @GalacticGrapefruit@lemmy.world

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          Yes, it generates a larger cavity/hole than a JHP (jacketed hollow point) and the article continues comparing JHP to this new round.

          A traditional HP is just that, the center is open, and it almost immediately breaks open on impact so shrapnel sort of goes all over the target. This is safer for everyone involved but might take several shots to stop someone because of the little actual penetration. Especially of a heavy canvas coat is worn it can severely degrade performance.

          This round, is copper filled with a fluid from the sounds of it, but instead of the front opening up in impact, this his there target and spreads from the rear (the fluid moving forward causing cavitation part). This means the round had a chance to penetrate while also expanding and puting pressure on surrounding tissue which causes more damage. Still though, as it expands, it should greatly reduce velocity and not go through the entire target. A JHP might go on 2-5 inches or more based on design and caliber. Maybe this could go 6-10 inches. If it did exit, there’s likely too little force to do extreme damage to whatever else it hits.

          I’ve got some in my safe, but never shot this particular round to experience it myself. I’ve shot all sorts of standard ball, FMJ, JHP, and composite or lead-free rounds of numerous caliber and form factor.

          Not to mention the brand has Defense in its name.

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            Oh shit for real? I’m stupid and sent you ones I’m not familiar with because I didn’t actually read it before sending. They also make them without fluid, just a solid bit of copper. Does the same thing but doesn’t expand

            I looked up “fluted penetrator” and just linked the first thing I saw, so thanks for the correction and actually reading the article that I was being too much of a tool to read.

            This is the bullet I should have used in the image and original comment.

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              All good man!! There’s a ton of different ammo aimed at different things, so no doubt too many overlap in names and specs, etc.

              Holy shit that guy chose “defensive” ammo of .357 magnum lmao! Is there a .357 that wouldn’t destroy the target? Haha that’s awesome. The 9mm for the 2nd test is far more common, but interesting they’re going for penetration while still expanding. You’d think they contradict each other.

              All I know is, I don’t want to be on the receiving end of any bullets!

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                Okay, so that’s the wierd part of them. The author says expansion but it’s not the bullet itself expanding on those. The idea is the bullet stays rigid but those fluted channels and flat nose push matter outward away from the bullet.

                Yeah though, bad wound to try and do any kind of first response on

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    So much to unpack. Love the first gen area Playstation sweatshirt. This looks like an actual photo. What is that in the background? A toilet? Like in the jails? I need context.

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      So I know this is a shitpost, but a pelvic shot is taught by some militaries as part of an alternative failure drill (two shots to the chest, followed by one to the head if they continue to be a threat). Its a larger target than a headshot requires, and is rarely protected by armor. Plus, if you miss, the shot is more likely to hit the ground instead of continuing flight well beyond whoever you were shooting at.

      So shitpost or not, its not the worst place to shoot.

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        And if you hit the pelvis they are combat ineffective and require medical evacuation. You have now incapacitated three people.

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        taught by some militaries

        Also some police agencies.

        More importantly, there are ‘junctional tourniquets’ now for armpits and groins. They’re obviously not as effective as a tourniquet around the limbs, but they’re around.

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        recoil also tends to pull high (if you’re not anticipating), so a groin shot if pulled would just end up centre mass instead, where a head shot would be a whiff