• ameancow@lemmy.world
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    10 days ago

    Epstein files also seem to be the first thing that cracked his base of political support.

    We all need to get a lot better about actually visiting and reading right-wing websites and groups. Even if they are painfully stupid and infuriating, we have to know the reality of what they think and feel.

    This is because for every huge story that breaks, the media splits it into two angles. One set of headlines pandering to the right, and another pandering to the left.

    Because of this, Epstein had a far smaller long-term impact on the right than we think. They have already moved on, every bit of “outrage” was performative and lip-service to the few right-wingers who want to feel intellectually honest. (Very few of them.)

    They are celebrating in the streets right now, they feel they are winning and they don’t actually care about child sex trafficking, largely most of them attached to that cause because it feels objectively good and they all want to be the “good guys.” That storyline is over, they’ve moved on to new storylines.

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      10 days ago

      Have you actually talked to any of them?

      I’ve seen a lot of houses in my city that I noted as having Trump flags have taken them down this summer. My Republican family members, and those of my friends, certainly aren’t sharing that sense of victory you’re claiming to see. They remember that Trump promised to release the files and haven’t. They’re all riled up ready to prosecute Bill Clinton and wondering why Trump has gone soft.

      And literally just last week the UK arrested 2 men for projecting a picture of Trump and Epstein together during his visit, which has brought a ton more attention to the story. It’s not going away just because you seem to want it to.

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        10 days ago

        It’s not going away just because you seem to want it to.

        I thought you had a good counterpoint up until you tried to be smug edgy dude. Fuck off, understand what’s at stake and why people like myself are worried that the left is going to get stuck spinning it’s wheels in a procedural issue while we’re literally losing the constitution. You can care about Epstein and keep pushing on it, I don’t give a fuck, just stop calling everything else major that happens a “distraction” like it doesn’t matter.

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          10 days ago

          I didn’t call anything a distraction, and I doubt you throwing out insults or telling me to “fuck off” is going to change anyone’s mind but okay. Your own comments are full of smug jokes that I chuckled without needing to personally attack you over.

      • TotallynotJessica@lemmy.blahaj.zoneOP
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        9 days ago

        No, I’m trans and they probably won’t even talk to me unless I put great effort into passing perfectly as cis. Even then, if I ever slip up it’s over. I’m also brown which means some people will see me as untrustworthy no matter what I do.