• Crozekiel@lemmy.zip
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      I’m just saying, his name is spelled correctly right there in the original post… lol

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        This is what I was thinking when there was talk of Al Franken running for president. But Schmuck Schumer didn’t want a smart, charismatic, funny PROGRESSIVE candidate running for president, so he jumped on that clumsy MAGA smear job to destroy him. I’ll NEVER forgive Schumer (or Gillibrand, who was in on it) for it.

        But just think of how good a Franken/ Trump would have been.

        The loss of Al Franken was enormous.

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    I’d normally say “hells no, stop electing celebrities!” but this is a person who is actually politically informed (savvy even) and at this point possibly bthenonoy person why might get the US out of this miserable shit it’s in and on to a path towards an actual representative democracy.

    If anything, Jon Stewart might be the only person able to get the US to stop electing celebrities in the first place

    So yeah, Jon 2028!

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    A lot of people here are condemning celebrity in US politics, and I get it… but at this point in time we might need someone who is already famous yet consistent and trustworthy. Stewart has shown himself to be a good person for decades. He’s also politically informed, progressive, and whip smart.

    We need a candidate who wants real change for the betterment of the working class. Somehow people thought that was Trump… I guess because he said he would be, a few times? And people were hoping hard? And not looking at his track record at all? Also racism? More importantly though: people didn’t think that candidate was Harris, who got pushed through by the Democratic party and ran an uninspiring campaign. Those people didn’t vote. Those people were excited about candidates like Bernie, who’s track record on class issues is indefatigable. Those people could potentially be excited about Jon Stewart tearing shit down for the actually betterment of the poor, and might trust that he would try.

    That’s my read, anyway. A Mamdani could come along and stir up some real enthusiasm, but I think it’s harder for a no-name without a proven record to win a national election. Last time that happened we ended up with Obama, and people still feel burned by his lack of progressive action.

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    Yes please. I’ve been wanting him to run for decades and I was hoping when he left the daily show he might end up on the path. I know he doesn’t want to do it, but no one who SHOULD have the job really WANTS the job, because they know what it means to do that job properly.

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    The Venn diagram overlap of personality characteristics of modern politicians and celebrities is extraordinarily large. Pure charisma drives success in modern media-driven politics. It’s sad, but I believe it’s truth now.

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      Charisma has always been a major driver of politics, be it Republican Roman, Great Britain during WW2, or now. The only thing that is really different, is that we have better records of what modern politicians get up to. I recommend watching Historia Civilis’s coverage on Rome, particularly the “His Year” subseries.

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        Being seen as having rizz at the national level is nothing to scoff at. We disdain celebrity but it is hard to obtain and keep. It can be used for good or ill, but the competencies needed for durable celebrity status are many.

        Think about all the skills and consistency a person who is on camera all the time has to have. They need to be internally consistent. They need to know who they are and project themselves well. they need to know how to manage a media career and they need to speak ideas that resonate with an audience and make people want to remember their name.

        You are absolutely correct celebrity and politician have always been intertwined professions.

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    Can you stupid fucks stop worshiping celebrities for like FIVE MINUTES.

    I don’t get how mindless our population is.

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      Volodymyr Zelenskyy was a standup comedian and I think he’s doing a pretty good job as president.

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      Well, we’ve already had Reagan, Schwarzenegger, Jesse Ventura, arguably Al Franken (he was on SNL), not to mention the Cheeto Bandito. Clint Eastwood and even Jerry goddamned Springer both made it as far as mayor. There are probably tons of others I’m forgetting.

      So that ship has likely sailed, I’m sorry to say. Too late; we’re already stupid.

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        Springer went the opposite direction. He was a lawyer and a politician, and after his career fizzled, he went into media. He was an actual news anchor before he got a national reputation for hosting a trashy TV show.

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        I would argue that most of those celebrities-turned-effective-politician (Franken was not effective long-term, he bowed out for stupid reasons) each had a lot more than face recognition, they were also snakes and scum or narcissists and I just don’t see Stewart in the crowd. He hasn’t expressed desire for politics, he has been an advocate and has been a great orator and journalist in his own way, but he is a different kind of person who wants different things, this means a distinct lack of political capital.

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        Jon Stewart is not a “celebrity”. It’s not like electing Jim Carrey to be president. He’s shown himself to be politically savvy and informed on policy and just generally thoughtful and intelligent many times. He seems like he’d make a good politician, and also he has a massive following already.

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        Permitted, systemic destruction of our education system via exploiting the idea of “fierce independence” I guess from reality itself, over the last half century or so.

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        this baffles me.

        The “left” has absolutely failed to produce any candidate willing to fight for socialized healthcare, workers rights, anti-genocide, proper immigration, lifting up the poor, increased salaries and taxing the rich.

        Stewart has been bipartisanly slinging shit at every politician doing stupid shit for years. He’s politically educated absolutely amazing at speaking.

        Our political system is on rails, we are only capable of fielding corporate shills, and only in two flavors: the ones that want to kill the poor and immigrants, and the ones that just want them to almost but not quite starve.

        It is quite impossible to third-party someone organically; it may not even be possible to third party someone with money and connections.

        Either way, you won’t have to worry about it, they’ll dismantle enough of the vote (already underway) that it doesn’t matter what people do, we’re going to stay on these rails until a true uprising happens. And we’ll probably live to see armed atlas bots patrolling the streets mowing down ‘dissidents’. It’s only a matter of time.

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    Americans dont really know how to judge a persons character… Look at the choices for the last few decades… They have all been horrible people, except maybe Joe Biden who was unable to function instead.

    Yes, Jon seems like a good person but I dont think good people are attracted to career politics. Its for the snakes and the lizards.

    But yeah, he would be a good fit if he wanted to sacrifice his happiness for that role. I think he is way too smart for that.

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      In many ways you NEED a snake or lizard to navigate actual politics. Actual politics is dealing and wheeling and backroom negotiations. It’s exerting will and influence and collecting power in the form of favors, voting blocs, coalitions and all manner of social complexity that shrewd, even narcissistic people absolutely exceed at.

      This doesn’t mean they have to be evil but you have to have someone who naturally enjoys playing dirty or skirting the rules and is capable of self-promotion. Of course Trump is all of these things and why he’s been effective at passing policy… stupid, shitty policy, but he has enough political capital that the GOP falls over themselves to suckle at his saggy teets. He’s been setting this up for decades.

      But what a lot of people who aren’t following politics don’t realize is Obama and every other president was the same. They were all self-important, hubristic and “scummy” in their own regards.

      For example, I don’t like Gavin Newsom at all, but he would probably be a highly effective president when it comes to pushing and passing policy. John Stewart might go in with ideals and goals, and get immediately sidelined and made into a lame-duck by not being able to leverage votes in house and senate or being unwilling to play ball and make sacrifices to get gains later. This is what it means to be an effective president and I don’t see anyone really who has both the will and the sauce.

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    Just an interesting observation I’ve had about the comments here: everyone against this is misspelling his name

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    Sure, why not. We’re in uncharted waters anyway.

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    I would normally say “no, absolutely not,” but he might be a little better than Gavin Newsom or Pete Buttigieg. I think Stewart’s centrist instincts are not what this country needs.

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    What’s a joke is thinking you are going to get there when you haven’t even seen what’s going to happen during the midterms, or that there is still over a year to get to even that.