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    Reading mode on Waterfox to bypass paywall:

    “Possess?” That single word means that owning a copy of Marx’s Das Kapital, or a pamphlet from a Palestinian solidarity group, or a battered paperback of Howard Zinn — or maybe even one of my books on the New Deal — would be enough to make a green-card holder or a naturalized citizen “inadmissible or deportable.”

    “Affiliated with?” That would prevent anybody who’s ever affiliated themselves with the Democratic Socialist Party in New York that Mamdami ran on behalf of (along with the normal Democratic Party; New York has fusion voting so you can run on two parties simultaneously) from staying in America. Gone to a meeting, rally, or put yourself on their mailing list? You’re toast.

    “Write?” That means they’re coming for me, and for you if you’ve ever echoed in writing the kind of sentiments that Republicans call socialism, including food stamps and school lunches, free college, public libraries, a national healthcare system, police and fire, and highways that don’t have tolls. (When billionaire David Koch ran for vice president in 1980 on an antisocialism agenda, he called for the end of all these forms of “socialism”.)

    “Distribute?” And they’d be coming for Substack, too, it appears. Along with your local bookstore or library.

    We haven’t seen anything this sweeping since the Alien and Sedition Acts of 1798, when then-President John Adams had roughly 30 newspaper editors and publishers thrown in prison for attacking him. Ben Franklin’s grandson was arrested for publishing an op-ed calling the president “old, querulous, Bald, blind, crippled, Toothless Adams.” A town drunk in New Jersey was arrested for criticizing him while imbibing in a bar. Adams’ overreach lost him the election of 1800 to his then-political enemy Thomas Jefferson, who openly opposed the Acts.

    But here we are again, and here’s another dangerous overreach on the GOP’s part in this legislation: Roy’s bill explicitly forbids judicial review of any inadmissibility, deportation, or denaturalization decision made under it.

    In other words, if this law passes, then no court can stop or second-guess the government: no habeas corpus, no meaningful appeals; just an order from the Attorney General or some twit at ICE or Homeland Security and you’re on a plane or stuck in a hellhole “detention facility,” possibly for the rest of your life.

    That’s not immigration policy, that’s the architecture of a police state, and it’s modeled on how the Nazis stripped citizenship from German Jews and political dissidents in 1935 under the Reich Citizenship Laws**.**

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      We haven’t seen anything this sweeping since the Alien and Sedition Acts of 1798, when then-President John Adams had roughly 30 newspaper editors and publishers thrown in prison for attacking him. Ben Franklin’s grandson was arrested for publishing an op-ed calling the president “old, querulous, Bald, blind, crippled, Toothless Adams.” A town drunk in New Jersey was arrested for criticizing him while imbibing in a bar. Adams’ overreach lost him the election of 1800 to his then-political enemy Thomas Jefferson, who openly opposed the Acts. But here we are again, and here’s another dangerous overreach on the GOP’s part in this legislation: Roy’s bill explicitly forbids judicial review of any inadmissibility, deportation, or denaturalization decision made under it.

      https://archive.is/Gxypy

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      what of us lefties who were born here. i’ll proudly “possess” all the banned things until the last moment.

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        So they’ll make you stateless and ship you off to whichever country is willing to provide a terminal storage facility for politically undesirable former citizens. People who build concentration camps don’t particularly care about details like whether an “immigrant” is a citizen born to citizens.

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      Solid response. I’m just responding with a solution for iOS users.

      Open Safari and enable automatic reader mode. The reader mode engages so fast after a link opens that it beats most paywalls. I already regret typing that out because it’ll most likely now get popular and be defeated by a patch.

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    Denying natural-born citizens their citizenship on any grounds is almost certainly a violation of the 14th Amendment. Chip Roy is a brainless hog person and this is a publicity stunt. They need a new scapegoat for election season, since the old ones don’t seem to be working anymore.

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      This initiative is (so far) threatening naturalized citizens, not born citizens.

      The 14th amendment specifies that naturalized citizens are full-fledged citizens, that there’s no legal way to cleave them off as some special subclass. In a sane world that paid more than lip service to the constitution, this this kind of harassment wouldn’t fly at all.

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      I honestly don’t think this is a publicity stunt. I think Chip Roy really believes this nonsense.

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    This is so obviously unConstitutional that it shouldn’t get any media exposure at all. This is just cheap propaganda to distract us from the Trump/ Epstein Files, the Trump AmerIsraeli War®, and the Trump Hyperinflation.

    Stop talking about this stupid bullshit, and put ALL the spotlight on the Trump Files and the Trump War and the Trump Hyperinflation. That’s what matters, and that’s what is going to destroy MAGA in the fall. The Midterms are the Dem’s Normandy Invasion, and if they pull it off, then the fall of MAGA becomes inevitable.

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    Conserv卐tives are the greatest threat to democracy around the world. Add in religion and the threat multiplies several times over.

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      And that is how we will get MAGA prohibited - by declaring them a genuine National Security Threat, which they absolutely have PROVEN to be.

      MAGA is responsible for a violent Insurrection, and the theft of hundreds of Classified documents. Those two crimes alone prove they are a National Security Threat, and there are plenty more, from corruption, graft, bribes, embezzlement, incompetence, and much more.

      The case against MAGA is open & shut, and the Dems better make that case when they take back power, or MAGA will only rise again stronger, and more violent.

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    Acts 2:43-47 NASB2020 [43] Everyone kept feeling a sense of awe; and many wonders and signs were taking place through the apostles. [44] And all the believers were together and had all things in common; [45] and they would sell their property and possessions and share them with all, to the extent that anyone had need. [46] Day by day continuing with one mind in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, they were taking their meals together with gladness and sincerity of heart, [47] praising God and having favor with all the people. And the Lord was adding to their number day by day those who were being saved.

    https://bible.com/bible/2692/act.2.43-47.NASB2020

    I guess I’m a dirty socialist for owning a Bible.