When we progress to that state of fascism, you’ll blame me long before you blame the Democrats who did nothing to stop it, just like everyone and their mother are ignoring that the VRA has been chipped away at by the courts for decades and Democrats did nothing to stop it.
(Which is odd.)
But, you always blame us Greens for your own failure and/or legit fascist turns, so maybe it isn’t that odd.
You could currently group with other like-minded individuals and remove these politicians from office by force and fire, then hold special elections. We are the citizenry, it is our duty to use our population advantage to enforce an ethical government.
And we are failing that duty. Plenty of blame to go around, even some for you and me.
I am not a patriot. I don’t believe in duty. I’m not a saint. I don’t believe in virtue. Duty and virtue are both for stupid people. I am a consequentialist.
I don’t group with people who were content with Trump winning against Harris in any way whatsoever. And I’m not interested in getting people who think like me, people who are actually my allies, killed.
There is no good reason for me to fight in a stupid civil war and get myself or my friends & family killed. To get my actual allies killed by rallying them to fight.
If people who were content with this result, who abstained from voting or voted third party, want to risk their life fruitlessly: they ought to do so and stop telling me I owe them my allegiance to their cause.
You have no moral high ground then, and should stop preaching like you do. And your friends, family, allies are going to die anyway if you do nothing. When they are taken to an ICE concentration camp, I hope you remember your words here, and how you failed them.
People survive fascism plenty. Maybe me and my people will survive, maybe they wont. I certainly would not improve our chances by trying to initiate a violent revolt against the most technologically advanced military on planet earth… even if it is run by incredibly stupid people at the moment.
We’re almost certainly more likely to survive keeping our heads down.
That said, if I or my loved ones end up in death camps, I’ll know exactly who to blame, I also probably wont care anymore though about blame. I’ll probably be pretty preoccupied with emotional devastation.
Fascism absolutely eats itself from the inside out over time. That’s why fascism frequently engages in aggressive invasions of neighboring countries to sustain itself where it’d otherwise be completely unsustainable.
That said, this fascism already has a critical weakness to its longevity: Trump is a husk at this point. He had a sentinel event about month and a half ago, it happened on live TV. Sentinel events indicate a significantly increased risk of fatal stroke in the following 4 months.
Even if he survives this period of elevated risk, his time is still likely short. He almost certainly wont finish this term. Let alone get another chance to try for a third term.
What we’ll get after him is a decaying conservative country, severely and brutally damaged by self inflicted wounds that neither party will be able to repair. It will flail at the world and make everything worse for everyone, US or otherwise. Our lives will get worse but Trump’s fascism will die with him. If someone manages to replace him can carry the torch I’ll be very surprised.
We’ll get a blue wave in the next two elections I suspect but democrats will not be able (even if they were overwhelmingly willing) to fully repair the damage done and then the fish brained electorate will let the republicans win again.
Perhaps by then I and whoever I manage to take with me will at least have fled to Canada. I have a lot of saving to do.
And when Barron Trump locks you away in the labor camp, you’ll be able to tell everyone that you voted Jill Stein
When we progress to that state of fascism, you’ll blame me long before you blame the Democrats who did nothing to stop it, just like everyone and their mother are ignoring that the VRA has been chipped away at by the courts for decades and Democrats did nothing to stop it.
(Which is odd.)
But, you always blame us Greens for your own failure and/or legit fascist turns, so maybe it isn’t that odd.
We’ll blame both of you.
Though really we wont because we’ll probably be too distracted by all the horrible suffering. Or we’ll be dead.
At least you’re being honest.
That’s more than we can ask of most of our legislators.
You could currently group with other like-minded individuals and remove these politicians from office by force and fire, then hold special elections. We are the citizenry, it is our duty to use our population advantage to enforce an ethical government.
And we are failing that duty. Plenty of blame to go around, even some for you and me.
I am not a patriot. I don’t believe in duty. I’m not a saint. I don’t believe in virtue. Duty and virtue are both for stupid people. I am a consequentialist.
I don’t group with people who were content with Trump winning against Harris in any way whatsoever. And I’m not interested in getting people who think like me, people who are actually my allies, killed.
There is no good reason for me to fight in a stupid civil war and get myself or my friends & family killed. To get my actual allies killed by rallying them to fight.
If people who were content with this result, who abstained from voting or voted third party, want to risk their life fruitlessly: they ought to do so and stop telling me I owe them my allegiance to their cause.
You have no moral high ground then, and should stop preaching like you do. And your friends, family, allies are going to die anyway if you do nothing. When they are taken to an ICE concentration camp, I hope you remember your words here, and how you failed them.
People survive fascism plenty. Maybe me and my people will survive, maybe they wont. I certainly would not improve our chances by trying to initiate a violent revolt against the most technologically advanced military on planet earth… even if it is run by incredibly stupid people at the moment.
We’re almost certainly more likely to survive keeping our heads down.
That said, if I or my loved ones end up in death camps, I’ll know exactly who to blame, I also probably wont care anymore though about blame. I’ll probably be pretty preoccupied with emotional devastation.
Fascism doesn’t blow over on it’s own. Never has, never will.
I don’t know if you’re intelligent, but I can tell you’re not wise.
Fascism absolutely eats itself from the inside out over time. That’s why fascism frequently engages in aggressive invasions of neighboring countries to sustain itself where it’d otherwise be completely unsustainable.
That said, this fascism already has a critical weakness to its longevity: Trump is a husk at this point. He had a sentinel event about month and a half ago, it happened on live TV. Sentinel events indicate a significantly increased risk of fatal stroke in the following 4 months.
Even if he survives this period of elevated risk, his time is still likely short. He almost certainly wont finish this term. Let alone get another chance to try for a third term.
What we’ll get after him is a decaying conservative country, severely and brutally damaged by self inflicted wounds that neither party will be able to repair. It will flail at the world and make everything worse for everyone, US or otherwise. Our lives will get worse but Trump’s fascism will die with him. If someone manages to replace him can carry the torch I’ll be very surprised.
We’ll get a blue wave in the next two elections I suspect but democrats will not be able (even if they were overwhelmingly willing) to fully repair the damage done and then the fish brained electorate will let the republicans win again.
Perhaps by then I and whoever I manage to take with me will at least have fled to Canada. I have a lot of saving to do.
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