Just believe, and Jill Stein will magically become POTUS. /s
Vote for Jill anyway, if your politics actually align with the Greens.
Or content yourself in the fact that you voted fascist just because it wore a blue jersey and whispered promises in your ear, promises that you know they will break because they always do. Donald has spent the last two years unilaterally demolishing every excuse Democrats ever made when they claimed they didn’t have the power to make lasting change.
fuck off mate
Real talk, if anyone genuinely believes this meme, they’re a fool. The parties in the US, and anywhere else, for that matter, are substantially different from one another.
Namely, Democrats only support Genocides in the middle east MOST of the time, whereas Republicans support it ALL OF THE TIME.
Wouldn’t it be great if the republicans lost the house and the senate?
So I really hope the DNC shifts away from genocidal Israel and centrist civility politics and adopts more popular progressive and left-wing platforms. Come on DNC! We need big tent for a big win!
Thank God the Democrats sacrificed their majority to keep the filibuster
As someone from outside the US, the problem is your side A is still more B than most countries side B by a pretty large margin (Though one that is concerningly shrinking). But we have seen proof that you can vote in a different side B at a local level and that’s probably the only non-violent way out of this assuming you (and by extension the rest of us) aren’t fucked already.
First they came for the palestinian And we voted for the genociders Coz the other guy’s even worse I stand for absolutely nothing lmao
there’s literally no difference between them
Who is saying this?
Definitely kicked the hornets nest with this one OP lol
There’s entirely too many people who let perfect be the enemy of better in this thread
The take seems to be along the lines of “only a revolution will fix this”, and then they don’t do a revolution. So while we wait to get that pie in the sky by and by, I’ll keep on going for a improvement.
I thought voting blue was gonna fix this?
Were you in a coma 2020 - 22 maybe?
Uh… I was offline. What happened?
Maybe Dems should try standing for something more than the status quo.
at least it exposed who supports the israel, aipac 100%. last thing the dinos want is Madmamis, aocs, and bernies being elected to the houses, and now PLATNER in maine of course. david hoggs was suppressed from the DNC. and there was an iraq war veteran that tried running to expose the hubris of congress.
Usually I’d put some electoral reform videos in a thread like this, but that time has long since passed us by.
Enjoy your 1%er divide and conquer propaganda.
So when’s the revolution going to start?
This is only true when you’re privileged enough to be a yank. You guys no souls
This is only true when you’re privileged enough to be a yank. You guys no souls
Human faults apply to all humans. Be careful.
My standpoint is this: I feel betrayed by the betrayals, I’m frustrated by the things Democrats didn’t do when they were in power. I accept as an unfortunate reality, at least some 1-15% of the Democratic party (can absolutely be more!) is corrupt and cares only about the NASDAQ, themselves, or Israel and ethnostates. That bloc will vote hard against anything pro-American like healthcare, defunding ICE, or defunding Israel. They might even pretend to support those things at times when no vote will pass.
There’s also more than a few timid, ineffective Democrats that are only voting for obvious wins, and won’t vote against any appointments because they don’t want attention on themselves.
A lot of that, ultimately, doesn’t matter. That type of opportunistic traitor, or coward, doesn’t get much of a mechanism in a supermajority, where their choice to stand against Democrats doesn’t even buy them anything; when over 50 seats in the Senate are NOT bought out by corporate interests.
By all fucking means, pick out the betrayals, watch people’s individual voting records, vote in primaries, and raise a stern eyebrow anytime a voter tells you they “vote blue, no matter who”. But don’t pretend you can’t look past nuance. We’re dealing with a mammoth ®ogue political party, which is the unfortunate reality, and even cutthroats could decide they benefit from taking credit in its destruction.
I got curious to see when the last time the democrats held power. We all know a single two year term isn’t long enough to accomplish anything before policy gets reverted.
House and Senate control history
The last time it was two 2 year consecutive terms was the 110th and 111th session. (2007-2011;Bush2001-2009/Obama2009-2017)
Prior to that, there was a four 2 year consecutive term streak 100th to 103rd. (1987-1995;Reagan/Bush-HW/Clinton)
The longest control was 13 terms; 84th-96th session from 1955-1981.
You say that but it seems like the current administration has made a lot of change in less than 2 years when the entirety of the party is in lock-step.
Imagine if instead of ACA we got medicare for all, meaning Republicans trying to touch it would’ve effected every single citizen akin to social security that they still haven’t successfully gutted because of the political suicide it would cause for them.
Yes: If more than 50 Democrats were religiously unified around one person or cause, they would get it done.
We’ve been trying to rally that effort behind ideas, like universal healthcare. The idea of rallying around a president, who claims they want universal healthcare, is there but it has serious risks: That person could lie, could pivot, could serve their own interests.
That is, in many ways, the lesson that MAGA members are getting; they were promised lower taxes, better jobs, and could see that with a willing supermajority, they have the power to get that. Only…that supermajority isn’t working in their interests, because they rushed to “have power”, when it’s really their politicians that have power.
And remember, that supermajority doesn’t even have to be one political party. It can be reps/senators from both parties that all were voted in on, and legitimately want to fight for, a certain idea. Long, long ago, D/Rs negotiated with each other and passed bipartisan bills, but that’s been gone a long time.
funding israel and starting wars is actually pro american, that benefits america.
funding israel is supporting Israels aim, while israel doesnt need use thier own cannon fodder to throw at the ME, they know how unpopular it is for thier own troops to suddenly die because thier own population would turn agains them, so they usea proxy, which is the UNited states via AIPAC and jewish billionaire backers.
Specifically your political and financial apparatuses. Not Americans in general.
american imperialism does benefit americans in general.
Nooo the country isn’t rotten to the core, it’s not like, based on pillage and exploitation of other nations and peoples or something ahaha. We just have to vote right and name more warships after famous gay people, just one more progressive warship I swear. Maybe an autonomous one?
Welp, guess we’re just fucked then
Section 702 isn’t a mass surveillance program. It has its problems (the main sticking point being that the surveilled non-Americans living outside the US communicating with other non-Americans outside the US might discuss Americans or forward communications from Americans, and now Americans’ data is collected), but let’s at least accurately describe the law being discussed.
42 out of 212.
What a lot of liberals don’t get about leftists criticizing the Democrats is that it isn’t “both sides are bad”. We criticize them because they’re lauded as saviors of the common people due to their occasional, surface level platitudes and vague gestures toward “progress”. Meanwhile, 20% of the Democrats in the house just fucking pimped us out to the surveillance state (for like the 500th time) and nobodys taking about it. The only thing you had to say about it was “well it wasnt ALL of them”
Y’all get defensive because deep down you know the Democrats are never going to save us or even stem the tide, but they’re the systems “solution” to the fascist problem so bygolly were just gonna keep “voting blue no matter who” until the country is “”““fixed””“” again. It’s a narrow, misinformed, and foolish perspective that deprioritizes everything but elections and tribalism.
I can’t speak for every leftist, but the ones I know and the spaces I run in outside of this godforsaken site don’t want to talk about the Democrats, they don’t want to talk electoral politics, they don’t want to both sides every little thing. But most liberals only seem to be capable of seeing politics through the party system, so we’re left having the conversation on your terms, which inevitably turns to criticism of the Democrats and y’all being a bunch of fucking crybullies about the slightest, most surface level critique of the party. Electoralism is a distraction, and we’re all falling for it.
I’m not saying don’t vote. I’m saying your mind is made up already, you know how you’re gonna vote, you know that your options are terrible, you know why you won’t be voting for the other side, you know what the fascists are up to. Why are we wasting so much energy chirping at each other when we could be active in the streets, supporting our communities, and building alternative systems that sidestep the two party system entirely? Why aren’t we talking about those things? Why aren’t we doing them? Plenty of people already are, we’re just
waiting forpleading with the libs to get the fucking hint and actually do something for onceBUT DON’T YOU SEE THEY’RE ALL THE SAME
