I’m cautiously optimistic it could backfire. Gerrymandering inherently creates weaker districts and Democrats have been over performing since 2024, some places as high as 20 or 30 points.
The Democratic party isn’t going to save us. They serve the same masters in the long run. Yes it could stop the hemorrhaging out of our neck, but the cancer has metastasized to the blood and brain.
Right? The people that keep pushing that rhetoric are either acting in bad faith or dumb enough to believe voting 3rd party actually makes a positive difference in Federal elections with FPTP voting
Edit: They also conveniently forget that the Democratic Party is an umbrella of many different beliefs, with many members having very different values, cultures, and backgrounds - whereas the Republican Party is mostly wealthy, racist white men
lol I was literally just pushing back against others in a different thread who all wanted to go out guns blazing and I was the one saying I would take my chances with getting arrested if that means I get to see my family again by working with lawyers.
I’m not doing anything illegal until me, my family, or my close circle is directly attacked with deadly force. I will protest in the streets, vote in every election, spread info locally to try to organize and get everyone on the same page, call representatives (lol like that does anything, but I still do it), etc.
The Democratic party is going to stop the immediate fascist threat, yes, and everyone should always vote D. But they’re not going to solve any of the issues that brought about this entire thing in the first place. They represent the monied interests. There are some progressives who I fully support, and they caucus with the Dems.
The smarter monied interests will see how fucking stupid this all was, especially for the billionaires.
It’s always been better to be a billionaire in the US than a billionaire in Russia. Why they’d want to make us more like Russia doesn’t really check out.
The only way that doesn’t involve the breakdown of society and total fall of the united states is through the democratic party. Everything else accelerates the fall.
It’s too bad mouth breathers think the Dem party is a unified monolith instead of a big tent party encompassing everyone not full tilt racist fucking nazi. It is also too bad the dnc establishment aren’t taking seriously that we’re in the middle of a coup by the heritage foundation and federalist society funded by technofeudalists and christian death cults. But unless you’re picking up a gun you oughta be voting Dem and primarying incumbents with progressives because third party and protest votes are votes for Trump and maga. But you know that, right? You wouldn’t actively be part of the problem would you?
First, vote Dem, vote your conscience in primaries, push for Ranked Choice Voting, overturning Citizens United (lol like that’s gonna happen) or The Transparent Election Initiative (The Montana Plan), and protest when necessary.
Now that that’s outta the way. Fuck the Democratic party. You’re surprised they “aren’t taking the threat seriously”? They benefit from this same coup, so of course they wouldn’t try to stop it, but just make some slogans and say some AI generated slop with the right buzzwords so the idiots will think they’re on their side. It’s really naive to think the DNC gives a fuck about any of this. They just don’t want it to cause too much chaos for their holdings.
I can’t vote, I’m not American. I would vote Democrat if I could. I vote against the conservatives even if I expect them to win. I’m confused why people read my pessimism as saying don’t vote, you still do what you can even if it’s probably futile. In fact things being bleak are all the more reason to do whatever you can to try to improve the situation
I’m confused why people read my pessimism as saying don’t vote
Because American politics have become so extreme that simply expressing that there are problems with a candidate or party that need to be addressed means you actually support the other candidate. Most of the time there is fuck all you can do to convince partisans you’re not a conservative even when you’re criticizing from the left.
Man do I hope the blue wave is large enough to overwhelm these shitstains safety margins.
I’m cautiously optimistic it could backfire. Gerrymandering inherently creates weaker districts and Democrats have been over performing since 2024, some places as high as 20 or 30 points.
The Democratic party isn’t going to save us. They serve the same masters in the long run. Yes it could stop the hemorrhaging out of our neck, but the cancer has metastasized to the blood and brain.
Well you better go vote because you ain’t gonna do shit else and you know it.
Right? The people that keep pushing that rhetoric are either acting in bad faith or dumb enough to believe voting 3rd party actually makes a positive difference in Federal elections with FPTP voting
Edit: They also conveniently forget that the Democratic Party is an umbrella of many different beliefs, with many members having very different values, cultures, and backgrounds - whereas the Republican Party is mostly wealthy, racist white men
lol I was literally just pushing back against others in a different thread who all wanted to go out guns blazing and I was the one saying I would take my chances with getting arrested if that means I get to see my family again by working with lawyers.
I’m not doing anything illegal until me, my family, or my close circle is directly attacked with deadly force. I will protest in the streets, vote in every election, spread info locally to try to organize and get everyone on the same page, call representatives (lol like that does anything, but I still do it), etc.
The Democratic party is going to stop the immediate fascist threat, yes, and everyone should always vote D. But they’re not going to solve any of the issues that brought about this entire thing in the first place. They represent the monied interests. There are some progressives who I fully support, and they caucus with the Dems.
The smarter monied interests will see how fucking stupid this all was, especially for the billionaires.
It’s always been better to be a billionaire in the US than a billionaire in Russia. Why they’d want to make us more like Russia doesn’t really check out.
“Stitches aren’t going to save this patient, yes it could stop the hemorraging in their neck but they need <x treatment> anyway”
The only way that doesn’t involve the breakdown of society and total fall of the united states is through the democratic party. Everything else accelerates the fall.
Too bad the democrats are useless fucks
It’s too bad mouth breathers think the Dem party is a unified monolith instead of a big tent party encompassing everyone not full tilt racist fucking nazi. It is also too bad the dnc establishment aren’t taking seriously that we’re in the middle of a coup by the heritage foundation and federalist society funded by technofeudalists and christian death cults. But unless you’re picking up a gun you oughta be voting Dem and primarying incumbents with progressives because third party and protest votes are votes for Trump and maga. But you know that, right? You wouldn’t actively be part of the problem would you?
First, vote Dem, vote your conscience in primaries, push for Ranked Choice Voting, overturning Citizens United (lol like that’s gonna happen) or The Transparent Election Initiative (The Montana Plan), and protest when necessary.
Now that that’s outta the way. Fuck the Democratic party. You’re surprised they “aren’t taking the threat seriously”? They benefit from this same coup, so of course they wouldn’t try to stop it, but just make some slogans and say some AI generated slop with the right buzzwords so the idiots will think they’re on their side. It’s really naive to think the DNC gives a fuck about any of this. They just don’t want it to cause too much chaos for their holdings.
I can’t vote, I’m not American. I would vote Democrat if I could. I vote against the conservatives even if I expect them to win. I’m confused why people read my pessimism as saying don’t vote, you still do what you can even if it’s probably futile. In fact things being bleak are all the more reason to do whatever you can to try to improve the situation
Because American politics have become so extreme that simply expressing that there are problems with a candidate or party that need to be addressed means you actually support the other candidate. Most of the time there is fuck all you can do to convince partisans you’re not a conservative even when you’re criticizing from the left.
Can you tell I love it here?! 😒
What is our alternative?
Unfortunately, there is no good alternative. I was merely expressing my sorrow at the situation